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Old 04-05-10, 12:04 PM
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April fools Joke on me.

So on april fools day i was riding into work and i happened to get into a accident luckily i was not hurt, Just some scrapes and bruises but nothing serious. Thank goodness for the extra padding i have on me says my wife. I also think my mom jinxed me as the day before she sees me riding home about a mile away from the accident and says to me, you be careful you know how i feel about you riding that bike to work!

The only thing that really got hurt was my 88 Raleigh Sport, Its not a classic or vintage but has taken me on miles of fun trips.

what had happened is i was going on a overpass which happens to be a major busy one here in chandler. The way i ride in is i have to go against traffic on the sidewalk just to get over on the overpass. I had a green light but not a walk sign i thought i would be ok, i should have used my better judgment and just waited. I got to comfortable with this corner it seems.

Well it is a 3 lane exit. the girl in the second lane didn't see me and she turned right on red, she hit me and i landed on the hood and then flew off. A highway patrol officer saw the accident and pulled up in front of me asked if i was ok and if i needed a ambulance, I told him no then he asked if i could i take my bike to the corner. it wouldn't roll so i had to carry it...

the girl was upset crying i felt bad for her, the officer wrote all the paperwork down and made a accident report. Let her go, wrote me a ticket and then left me on the corner while i waited for a ride. I ended up going to the hospital and being checked out.

since then i have rode one of my other bikes just so i don't freak myself out.

But i must say this has been a learning experience, i don't see myself as a crazy rider, i should have just used my better judgement, and i don't feel like i'm a car hater either. Though i think the girl needs to look a little better maybe look in the opposite direction while turning, and not have a license plate that says not all blonds are dum. And i think they should put a sign at the light where i got hit. Alot of people walk through there since the casino is so close.

at the exit close to my home they have a no turn on right sign on the off ramp. i don't understand why they don't have one there.

I think the most damage to my bike was i have some bent wheels bent fenders, and a bent basket. Im going to see if i can save the frame it doesn't look bent, hopefully it isn't cause this is my go to bike.

all i can really say too is don't try and risk it. just take our time and use your better judgement, cars are more bigger than we are and it doesn't take much to take us down on a bike.

here are some pics. Im probably going to take it to the bike shop to see if the frame is ok.

or can i check it myself?

from about 5 feet away you cant tell it was in a accident.


my bent fender and wheel...


rear wheel, it was worse i had to bend it so it would roll...


my basket got caught in the spokes. had to bend this so it would roll too...


My bent basket.


bent rear wheel and my fender.




from atop and my foot.
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Sidewalk contraflow story. Belongs in A&S.

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Why did the police officer give you a ticket? That does not seem right! Will the woman or her insurance pay for your bike and you visit to the hospital?
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he said i went on a no walk sign.

i dont know if the girl got a ticket, i don't think her insurance will pay, they haven't called me or i haven't made a claim either.
ill be honest i think it was both our faults.
we should have both payed more attention to the road.

sorry cudak888 i should have looked at the other forums...

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Old 04-05-10, 12:32 PM
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My favorite part is where you try to put part of the blame on her.
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Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
Sidewalk contraflow story. Belongs in A&S.

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Really? Hmmm. Wow, they should make you a mod. You sure know how to run this place. Go ahead and move it Kurt.
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Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind View Post
Really? Hmmm....
Lesser stories have been shuttled off to A&S, C&V Valuations, and the - ahem! - Africa forums.

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That's a bummer. I'm glad you're not hurt too bad.

I'm all for blaming drivers in general, but in this case I can't do it. When you get on the sidewalk, you have to play by the pedestrians' rules.
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I'd start by removing the wheels and putting it up on a stand and have a look to see if there is anything horribly out of whack that you didn't notice.

From the pics the frame looks OK.

The Fenders and the stays should be easy to bend back, Same with the Rack stays.

You may be able to salvage the wheels if you un-tension them and try to straighten out the hoops, but its probably gonna be easier (and not horribly expensive) to just buy a cheap new front wheel from Niagara Cycle for 25 bux. Plus it will be a bit of an upgrade to a new alloy rim.

Dunno about the rear wheel....hard to see from those pics, but its not quite as cheap to just buy a new 3 speed hub built to a new rim...you might save some bux by picking up an inexpensive rim and rebuilding the rear wheel on your own.
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Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
Lesser stories have been shuttled off to - Africa forums.

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I guess Africa needed some livening up.
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im not saying it was all her fault.

im sorry if it sounded like it. I take responsibility for what i did. Yes i rode on the sidewalk and Yes i went on a no walk sign i should have known better.

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Things happen James and hopefully lessons are learned. Just glad that you are okay. Now to concentrate on that bike!
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thanx Siu.

Yeah i did learn a lesson. A rough one at that but i admit i was wrong. Thats all i'm really concerned about is getting my bike fixed.
Sorry if i should have posted this in another forum and sorry if i offended anyone by making this thread.

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Are both rims trashed? If so, I'd upgrade to aluminum ones-- either Sun CR18 or Weinmann ones, which are cheaper. It'll lighten the bike and improve braking.

If you can save one rim, you might consider getting a second one used. In fact, I think I have one of those Raleigh rims; pm me if interested.
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Originally Posted by jamesj View Post
thanx Siu.

Yeah i did learn a lesson. A rough one at that but i admit i was wrong. Thats all i'm really concerned about is getting my bike fixed.
Sorry if i should have posted this in another forum and sorry if i offended anyone by making this thread.

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No need to apologize. I think you will get more support on getting your bike back to near perfect than you would in Safety and Advocacy. There's a lot of people here that can help you with your vintage bike.
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If you have the wheels off, you tie a string to one of the rear dropouts, take it forward around the head tube, then pull it back to the other rear dropout. The seat tube should be dead center between the strings. If it isn't, you can bend it back one rear triangle at a time. See Sheldon's article on cold setting for rear axle spacing.
Also eyball the frame from dead astern. The seat tube should be parallel with the head tube and the fork should look symetrical from that angle, too.
Thanks for the heads up. I'm not always as careful as I should be. 9 times out of 10 everything is fine.
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This kind of damage would come into the bike shop and the kid would have NO IDEA how it happened. At least in front of the parents, of course, a family member caught you...

There is a chance that the best repair is no repair, maybe a donor bike or alternate bike, keen evaluation is needed, in insurance parlance, it might be a write-off. It can be repaired, but is it worth it?
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Having the “right of way” is irrelevant when it comes to cars vs. bikes: Even in rare instances when drivers are NOT on their cell phones, and appear to “see you”, they are oblivious to your presence. Therefore, they can only apologize AFTER they drag you &/ your bike along the pavement.

Re. your bike, if you get any compensation from the Insurance Company, my advice is to try to get fair replacement value for a replacement bike instead of trying to repair the damaged one.

The reason is that there are ways in which a frame can be bent that a bike shop will not detect, but which will be very apparent when you true up the wheels and ride it. -And also, if the frame actually is still 100%, you can take the parts off the replacement bike and fix it that way yourself.
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I'm glad you're going to be okay, jamesj. Having said that, and as someone posted above also said, when you cross the double yellows and/or get on a sidewalk, you become a pedestrian. To me, this includes stopping everywhere and riding at the speed that a pedestrian walks. This is typically so slow that I'm almost falling over. I do this as infrequently as possible.

Also, as a car driver, I'm constantly looking in that same spot for pedestrians and cyclists alike. Twice I saw something similar happen, and I know the pain of disfiguring injuries. I never want to make that happen to anybody, regardless of who would be at fault.
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Well, safety happens by accident sometimes...4 years ago I was typing a paper on my computer and just by chance stretched and looked out the window in time to see a female bicyclist get rear-ended by an SUV. Within 2 hours of witnessing that my wife and I both had helmets...

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Glad you were not seriously hurt and you were able to walk away from it. The damage to the bike looks to be fixable. If the fork is tweaked, it's only side to side. The fender and braces can be bent back easily enough.
That's a nice looking Raleigh.
Pursue the insurance end of things. She did hit you, and it's a no-fault policy in this state.
I'm sure you've gotten an earful from your wife and mother. It's better to be in a condition to hear this, than them sobbing next to your hospital bed.
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How was this an April Fool's Joke?

I'm glad you weren't severely injured- you got lucky.

Nice looking Raleigh!
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thanx everyone for the concern.
Yeah as i said i learned my lesson.

But on to other importnant topics give me some ideas for getting this thing running again.

I was thinking about running 650b's on this bike if the frame is salvageable. would this be a option?
I always wanted to upgrade the wheelset on it actually.

If they do not work i can always use it on my other Raleigh i have yet to work on.


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Hey James,

I replaced the wheels on my Raleigh Sprite with the wheels off an 1980s Schwinn World Sport.

Actually, I took a bunch of parts from the World Sport and an old Schwinn Suburban.

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