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Old 04-10-10, 11:07 AM
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Sigh...there's a tear in my beer

My first "good" bicycle was a Trek 560 that I bought my junior year of college. That was the bike that I learned to love riding on and as the years have gone by I regret ever having eventually using the 560 as partial payment for a full Campy group. Living here in the boondocks of SD, it is with great envy that I read folk's tales of finding great bikes thru Craigslist, etc. So imagine my excitement when I found this posting:

http://sd.craigslist.org/bik/1681630226.html

Went to take a look at it this morning and other than the upright bars, it was original. Even with the scratched paint, frayed cables, flat tires, missing saddle and broken AGC brake lever (that were mounted sideways on the bar), I probably have enough bits & pieces around that I could've gotten it on the road without a huge investment. Then I asked what he wanted and as soon as I heard, "Well, one of the mechanics at Scheel's said that these are worth $500 to 600," I knew it was not to be. After talking a while about this & that, his bottom line was $300 - I was only willing to blow $100 so that ended my dream of a romantic reunion with my first love. It was hard to walk away but I just finished my Litespeed winter project and my wife wasn't at all happy about my blowing the budget on that one, so I just couldn't see myself explaining away $300 for a sentimental purchase. Oh well, better to have loved and lost than never loved at all.
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Guy is dreaming at that price.
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OH I am sorry to here this, I could never part with my beloved '87 Sport SX even though she hangs slighly neglrcted with a nice coating of dust. I would certainly keep an eye on the listing who knows he may coem to his senses one day. OH what size do you need? I think there was one on CL here in Philly. check the 'you looking for this' thread.
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Unfortunately, we live in a world where fixies reach outrageous prices and where all vintage bikes get considered "rare." What a whack job. He wanted $300 for a non-functioning bike? Should've just taken it.
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Guy is dreaming at that price.
Especially in South Dakota.
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You might be lucky; it could sit there for ages; hence, lowered price.

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You might be lucky; it could sit there for ages; hence, lowered price.

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Right. Just call up once per month or so and say you've still got $100 cash at the ready.
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I wouldn't sell it for $100. I think you're going to have to decide what it's worth to you...I think your offer is pretty low actually. Maybe the SD market is totally different, but I'm sure I'd find a buyer at $100 for that frame.
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Here's the 560 BG mentioned...I posted it a few days ago and I'd assume it probably sold by now:

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/bik/1682410707.html

Trek 560, 59cm, 1984, A Classic Lugged-Steel Road Bike - $280 (Havertown)

Date: 2010-04-08, 1:11PM EDT
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1984 Trek 560. 700c wheels. 59cm frame (center-to-center), 33.5 inch standover height. Best for a rider from about 5’9” to just over 6’ tall, depending on your sizing preference. See the complete parts spec below.
Please note that this is an all-out, no-compromises race bike. It was built to carry a fit rider over a distance quickly. It’s really not the best choice for grocery-getting or a leisurely sight-seeing jaunt. It doesn’t feature plastic click-shifters or an upright, beginner-friendly posture. It’s lean, mean, and fast, and is best for someone who either knows how to use it, or is willing to learn how.
It’s also not a show bike. The basic black (original) finish has some dings, and the clear-coat is blotchy in spots. But the Reynolds butted and lugged steel frame is solid, with no dents, cracks, or damage. This is a bike you won’t mind hammering hard and then leaning against a brick wall. People who don’t know bikes might not even give it a second look. But you’d better lock it up, because people who know what they’re looking at will definitely give it some attention. It’s loaded with Suntour Superbe parts, right down to the headset and hollow bottom-bracket spindle. It also features the outstanding Sugino “Super Mighty” crankset, and a nicely-worn suede Selle San Marco Laser (Concor Supercorsa) saddle. And I don’t want to forget to mention the Mavic wheelset.
You could certainly leave this bike as it is, and enjoy the heck out of a classic lugged-steel race bike. But if ever there was a frame crying out for the reasonable expense of a quality powder-coat finish, this is it.
This bike has been fully overhauled, with new chain, cables, housings, tires, and bartape. It is in outstanding mechanical condition. Come on out for a test ride. Havertown is about 20 minutes west of University City, between Upper Darby and Ardmore/Wynnewood. Complete specs:
Frame: Reynolds 501 Chromoly Steel, butted tubes, lugged construction, Made in USA
Wheelset: Mavic MA-40 front, Mavic G-40 rear, Campagnolo Record hub, 13 thru 25 tooth, 6 speed freewheel
Crankset: Sugino Super Mighty, with Mighty Competition rings 54/47
Derailleurs/Shifters: Suntour Superbe, 12 speed friction
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Saddle: Selle San Marco Laser, Concor Supercorsa, made in Italy
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I wouldn't sell it for $100. I think you're going to have to decide what it's worth to you...I think your offer is pretty low actually. Maybe the SD market is totally different, but I'm sure I'd find a buyer at $100 for that frame.
$150-$200 in the Twin Cities. It would be gone in a day or two at that price.
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Right. Just call up once per month or so and say you've still got $100 cash at the ready.
I waited 6 months for someone to drop from $600 to $100 on a DL-1. Guess who owns it now?



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I waited 6 months for someone to drop from $600 to $100 on a DL-1. Guess who owns it now?



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That's a beauty. I have no problem with low balling or trying to get something cheap most of the time...I obviously do it too...I just don't think the guy was being that crazy for asking what he asked. He was a little high, but I wouldn't expect to get it for $100 either.

The Merlin I bought was originally priced at $1500...I wanted it but couldn't afford it. I gave him a low ball offer of $700, which I never thought he'd accept but was what I could afford. I explained nicely how much I loved the bike and why I made the offer I made (not because it wasn't worth it, but because I didn't have it) A month later he got tired of dealing with CL flakes and called me. He liked how into the bike I was and liked that I was friendly about things. It's a strategy that can work.
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I just don't think the guy was being that crazy for asking what he asked. He was a little high, but I wouldn't expect to get it for $100 either.
On the Rudge? That was the seller's offer when I called him 6 months later. I didn't set that price.

That said, consider the state it arrived in: Smashed crank cotters (complete with misguided hammer dent in the chaincase from these "repairs"), rear fender held on with a tie wrap + reflector missing, and a bent, irreplaceable fork to rival Pastor Bob's Schwinn New World:



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I wouldn't sell it for $100. I think you're going to have to decide what it's worth to you...I think your offer is pretty low actually. Maybe the SD market is totally different, but I'm sure I'd find a buyer at $100 for that frame.
I did decide what it's worth to me - given the investment in time & materials that I'd have to make for the thing to be rideable, $100 was what I willing to part with. Maybe if the guy had been more realistic, emotion would've taken over and I might've gone higher, who knows. It just seemed to me that the price was ridiculously out of line for something in such a state of disrepair.
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One of these days I may come across a '71 or '72 Gitane, about the color of that Rudge. My first good bike. It was stolen after 6 months. One of these days.
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On the Rudge? That was the seller's offer when I called him 6 months later. I didn't set that price.

That said, consider the state it arrived in: Smashed crank cotters (complete with misguided hammer dent in the chaincase from these "repairs"), rear fender held on with a tie wrap + reflector missing, and a bent, irreplaceable fork to rival Pastor Bob's Schwinn New World:





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I meant on the Trek...I don't think the $300 asking price was that out of line. I don't think it was any more off the value mark than the $100 offer anyway. $100 for the Rudge was exactly what I'd expect. That's about what I got for an excellent 1954 Raleigh Sports. I just could not get a decent offer on that thing.

I have no problem with offering whatever someone thinks it's (the Trek) worth, but I take issue with complaining about someone's asking price when I don't think any of us would sell it much less than that. A lot of us, myself included, treat things like gold when we have it, but it's an old bike that needs work when we buy it.
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I picked up an '87 560 Pro Series in 2008 that was built up somewhat funky for $100. To me that seemed like a good deal due to the fact that the important parts were still intact and the frame was in excellent condition.

It really comes down to a judgment call based on want, need and the local market conditions.

And please, no crying in the beer. Save that for later in the baseball season.
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Are we still feeding this whine?
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Are we still feeding this whine?

Why do people have to be such poops in posting nasty-grams like this? I don't think the OP was whining, just sharing an experience he had - to paraphrase Sgt. Hulka, get a life Francis.
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Why do people have to be such poops in posting nasty-grams like this? I don't think the OP was whining, just sharing an experience he had - to paraphrase Sgt. Hulka, get a life Francis.


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...not to mention more pictures and build stories. And components. Lots of shiny components.

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Even those fitted for us aliens, Kurt?
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Even those fitted for us aliens, Kurt?
So long as its a bike and a story!

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