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Old 04-12-10, 12:36 AM
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Help with Alan (the bike)

I picked up an original '81 Alan Super Record at the local bike swap (the stickers are long gone). Like most aluminum bikes stored for long periods of time in garages, the steel on the Campy parts acted as a sacrificial annode and will constitue a future Oxyalic Acid experiment. Worst case, I am only down a picture of Ben Franklin. Anyway, upon inspection when I got it home I discovered why it may have not had many miles on it. It seems that the rear derailuer cable stop (on the frame) is broken such that the cable housing gets sucked through stop (and doesn't work). These pictures kinda show it:







The good news is that it seems to be screwed into the frame. The bad news is that it 1). it is probably pretty fused in, and 2). where on earth can I get another one of these. Any help or ideas would be appriciated.

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Old 04-12-10, 01:54 AM
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Campagnolo super record on vintage aluminum frame is a dream bike for me.

I have a rather beat up alan and just tried to pull the cable guide off and could not get further than a wiggle. I'm sure if you can't replace the part there will be an easy way to make a cable stop
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My Alan is a bit older than yours and did not come with that cable stop on it nor any provision for it. I have a clamp on cable stop on mine which I believe is an old Suntour piece when I put her together oh so many years ago. I would be happy to get a photo up if you need it. But here is one on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/Suntour-Chainsta...efaultDomain_0 Get out the mothers alloy polish and revel in your black hands for a few days.

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I suggest using an old brake cable barrel adjuster off a brake hanger or sidepull caliper. See if it fit through the hole.
BTW, nice ALAN. That's going to polish up beautifully.
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I always wondered if these Alans were even clear anodized at the factory. They seem to all have AL corrosion issues when you see them these days.
Can a whole frame be cleaned up and clear anodized as a whole? Will it affect the bonded joint glue?? Just curious if I ever end up owning these nice bikes. Love the small Italian touches like the engraved scroll work on the head lugs!
It will be interesting to have one of these and a Vitus 979 at the same time and compare the two on performance and frame details/technology.

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I think the main tubes are annodized and the lugs are not. Really doesn't take a whole lot of time with some polish to bring 'em back alive.
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you can also just run housing the full distance from the previous stop.
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Thanks for the input. IF (and I mean IF) I can get the screw holding the stop in, I may try to have one made. If not, I will likely go the clamp-meathod. It is going to take some time to clean it up but I think it will be worth it. I am trying to decide if I should look for new graphics or leave it stickerless.
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Nice Find! The parts alone are worth more than you paid for the bike. I used to have one, too. I think mine was a '79 frame. It had clamp-on cable guides, I think. You might be able to gizmo up a ferrule for the derailleur cable stop.

To Chombi's idea, I now have a Vitus 979 I built from parts to replace my Alan. I would say the Vitus is more comfortable, less twitchy, and quite a bit lighter. Shinier, too!
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