PX 10- two questions
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PX 10- two questions
1. Head badge has 2 rivets (gold lion-red badge thin steel)
2. Simplex down tube shifters are 2 piece steel (w/black plastic ends and wing nuts)
I can't find these things on other pix of these bikes, of course tying to pin down the year (rear de-rail Simplex prestige has 70 stamped on back)
White (531 doubled butted decals) frame w/black Nervex "fancy" lugs (gold pinstriped)
Chrome fork ends and rear "triangle" Brooks Pro, Stronglite, Simplex, Mafac etc.
Should be a PX 10
2. Simplex down tube shifters are 2 piece steel (w/black plastic ends and wing nuts)
I can't find these things on other pix of these bikes, of course tying to pin down the year (rear de-rail Simplex prestige has 70 stamped on back)
White (531 doubled butted decals) frame w/black Nervex "fancy" lugs (gold pinstriped)
Chrome fork ends and rear "triangle" Brooks Pro, Stronglite, Simplex, Mafac etc.
Should be a PX 10
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I don't see any questions in your post.
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Rectangle w/slight curve top, bottom. Front forks have triangle 531 and seat tube between Inoxydable and the black and white checkers has rectangle with diagonal 531
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1 and 2 are facts. What are your questions?
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On PX 10 questions....
Standard answer 1) No, it's most likley a UO8
Standard answer 2) No, It's most likely a UO8
Just kidding....
Frankly, I never really could nail down how to spot a real PX10
Grand Bois and Maimijim are the PX10 gurus here!
All I know is 531 tubing means you are getting close....and maybe a silver Simplex label on the RD helps...
Chombi
Standard answer 1) No, it's most likley a UO8
Standard answer 2) No, It's most likely a UO8
Just kidding....
Frankly, I never really could nail down how to spot a real PX10
Grand Bois and Maimijim are the PX10 gurus here!
All I know is 531 tubing means you are getting close....and maybe a silver Simplex label on the RD helps...
Chombi
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Right no red on the RD and no plastic de-rail cable guides near BB and cool black and gold Simplex badge on seat post. Then the big TROUBLE is the 5 digit number stamped on the BB
04-12-10, 04:37 PM
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Jim's PX 10 in the vintage for sale section is a great guide to some PX10 features.
+1 When it doubt, just say three times: "Its a UO8, its a UO8, it a UO8".
In your case, it certainly sounds like you have something MUCH nicer than a UO8.
+1 When it doubt, just say three times: "Its a UO8, its a UO8, it a UO8".
In your case, it certainly sounds like you have something MUCH nicer than a UO8.
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You don't have the chrome on the rear on the UO-8 and the 531 decal on the seat tube. Why can't I find the 2 rivet head badge, is it possible this was not an export machine?
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It actually does sound like a PX-10. I think only the PX-10 had chrome on the rear triangle.
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Originally Posted by secretagent
You don't have the chrome on the rear on the UO-8...
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UO-8 was double-butted? I didn't think so. I just spent a few days trying to nail down how to spot a real PX-10 (and deemed the one hanging in my closet as a "real" one).
I can help you nail down the year I think. Where is the Reynolds sticker? On the seat tube or the down tube? Seat tube = pre-1975 and on the down tube = post-1975. Or, maybe it's 1974, can't remember. But that will help you get close.
Sounds like yours is a year or two off from mine. Mine is identical to yours aside from the "fancy" lugs. I have the same Prestige derailleur, chrome stays/bottom fork, etc. Mine is either a 1970, 1971 or 1972 based on the plain lugs. Yours may be a 1973 or 1974 if it's got the decal on the seat tube.
At least you have a real PX-10. That's really all that matters. My GOODNESS these things are hard to nail down.
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I can help you nail down the year I think. Where is the Reynolds sticker? On the seat tube or the down tube? Seat tube = pre-1975 and on the down tube = post-1975. Or, maybe it's 1974, can't remember. But that will help you get close.
Sounds like yours is a year or two off from mine. Mine is identical to yours aside from the "fancy" lugs. I have the same Prestige derailleur, chrome stays/bottom fork, etc. Mine is either a 1970, 1971 or 1972 based on the plain lugs. Yours may be a 1973 or 1974 if it's got the decal on the seat tube.
At least you have a real PX-10. That's really all that matters. My GOODNESS these things are hard to nail down.
-Collin-
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Originally Posted by secretagent
Has anyone seen these on a PX-10 and can they help determine the year?
My PX10 ( below ) has the same DT Simplex shifters and 2 rivet Lion thin steel head badge you described.
It is still awaiting restoration, and has type II decals, an AVA "death" stem, and a Simplex Prestige DR which I believe puts it between 1970 and 73.
I can't get it any more exact than that.
( BTW the blue paint is original. I don't think it was cataloged though, and I've not seen so many blue ones. )
So where is a picture of yours?
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Originally Posted by Collin2424
UO-8 was double-butted? I didn't think so. I just spent a few days trying to nail down how to spot a real PX-10 (and deemed the one hanging in my closet as a "real" one).
I can help you nail down the year I think. Where is the Reynolds sticker? On the seat tube or the down tube? Seat tube = pre-1975 and on the down tube = post-1975. Or, maybe it's 1974, can't remember. But that will help you get close.
Sounds like yours is a year or two off from mine. Mine is identical to yours aside from the "fancy" lugs. I have the same Prestige derailleur, chrome stays/bottom fork, etc. Mine is either a 1970, 1971 or 1972 based on the plain lugs. Yours may be a 1973 or 1974 if it's got the decal on the seat tube.
At least you have a real PX-10. That's really all that matters. My GOODNESS these things are hard to nail down.
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I can help you nail down the year I think. Where is the Reynolds sticker? On the seat tube or the down tube? Seat tube = pre-1975 and on the down tube = post-1975. Or, maybe it's 1974, can't remember. But that will help you get close.
Sounds like yours is a year or two off from mine. Mine is identical to yours aside from the "fancy" lugs. I have the same Prestige derailleur, chrome stays/bottom fork, etc. Mine is either a 1970, 1971 or 1972 based on the plain lugs. Yours may be a 1973 or 1974 if it's got the decal on the seat tube.
At least you have a real PX-10. That's really all that matters. My GOODNESS these things are hard to nail down.
-Collin-
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Originally Posted by auchencrow
Hi Secretagent -
My PX10 ( below ) has the same DT Simplex shifters and 2 rivet Lion thin steel head badge you described.
It is still awaiting restoration, and has type II decals, an AVA "death" stem, and a Simplex Prestige DR which I believe puts it between 1970 and 73.
I can't get it any more exact than that.
( BTW the blue paint is original. I don't think it was cataloged though, and I've not seen so many blue ones. )
So where is a picture of yours?
My PX10 ( below ) has the same DT Simplex shifters and 2 rivet Lion thin steel head badge you described.
It is still awaiting restoration, and has type II decals, an AVA "death" stem, and a Simplex Prestige DR which I believe puts it between 1970 and 73.
I can't get it any more exact than that.
( BTW the blue paint is original. I don't think it was cataloged though, and I've not seen so many blue ones. )
So where is a picture of yours?
j/k, I haven't seen a lot of them either. Somehow I wound up with two, I dunno how.
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Originally Posted by Poguemahone
Pheh. They're a dime a dozen in blue:
j/k, I haven't seen a lot of them either. Somehow I wound up with two, I dunno how.
j/k, I haven't seen a lot of them either. Somehow I wound up with two, I dunno how.
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Isn't the one in the foreground a PX10E?
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Originally Posted by jimmuller
Sure you do. My '72 UO-8 does. You want to distinguish a UO-8? Measure the length of the chain stays. It will be 18 1/2 inches or more. Unless they shortened it.
Originally Posted by Poguemahone
I thought the plain lugs did not come in until 1972. Nervex curvy before (and sometimes after) that date.
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Originally Posted by cudak888
Isn't the one in the foreground a PX10E?
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Originally Posted by cudak888
Isn't the one in the foreground a PX10E?
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