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I'm restoring my 1991 RALIEGH TEAM REYNOLDS 753 frame... and guess what? I need help.

Old 04-18-10, 12:15 PM
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I'm restoring my 1991 RALIEGH TEAM REYNOLDS 753 frame... and guess what? I need help.

I bought this frame from some guy who spray painted it blue and seeing as how rare the frame/steel is I am going to try to make the frame look as original as possible, if anyone has any pictures of factory Raleigh Teams from 1991 please let me know, I'm tired of this rattle can mess.

I'm thinking of reproducing the decals and logos (luckily i have a head badge) and getting it stripped and painted by a pro, any help is appreciated.
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How do yu know it is 1991? Raleigh did not build Team Replicas in 1991 though they possibly built some Team frames that were not used... What is the frame number? That will help determine the year and I have photos of most Team paint jobs.
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How do yu know it is 1991? Raleigh did not build Team Replicas in 1991 though they possibly built some Team frames that were not used... What is the frame number? That will help determine the year and I have photos of most Team paint jobs.
the serial is R933110120 and the guy who painted it left an unpainted rectangle on the bottom of the top tube so the reynolds 753 baka logo on the bottom is exposed, so just assumed it was a team due to the steel type. any help would be awesome.
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If its a Raleigh Team frame it will have a number beginning SB stamped on the underside of the bottom bracket shell... Have you any pics?
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Technium? +pics

Originally Posted by Hilarystone View Post
If its a Raleigh Team frame it will have a number beginning SB stamped on the underside of the bottom bracket shell... Have you any pics?
i've been looking at techniums for a little bit and i didn't know that they made them in 753 steel, so now i'm starting to think that it is a technium 753, do you have any pictures of those?


https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...eat=directlink
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That last picture answered my question.

I suspect you're correct about it being a Technium. Unfortunately, I know very little about them. For example, I didn't know until today that they weren't all made of aluminum.

Someone who knows about these will eventually be along.
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Technium referred to the process of build (not the material - lots of AL techiums there) : Sleeve-like aluminum lugs that fit "glued" (bonded) tubes of either steel or aluminum. And, yes, these are Technium lugs.

Here is an older ebay link with a picture of Team Raleigh Technium 753 (which is what I think you have) :

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=220548118337

(in that auction, there is a link to a Team Technium 753 info, but it is an older model than yours, and the one that was auctioned -look at the seat cluster)

good luck and enjoy your bike!
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Originally Posted by EjustE View Post
Technium referred to the process of build (not the material - lots of AL techiums there) : Sleeve-like aluminum lugs that fit "glued" (bonded) tubes of either steel or aluminum. And, yes, these are Technium lugs.

Here is an older ebay link with a picture of Team Raleigh Technium 753 (which is what I think you have) :

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=220548118337


(in that auction, there is a link to a Team Technium 753 info, but it is an older model than yours, and the one that was auctioned -look at the seat cluster)

good luck and enjoy your bike!
Awesome, thanks for the searching. Now all i need is the decals... if anyone knows where i could find some (reproductions are ok with me) and the matching reynolds 753 decals, OR even some high res pics of the decals so i can put my illustrator skills to good use and make a set myself.
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Lugged Raleigh USA 753 Technium Team Bike

I have a unique Raleigh steel lugged 753 Technium bike with standard size tubing and a team number tag under the top tube. The bike has an SB85xx serial number so it's likely to have come from Raleigh's Ilkeston SBDU.

The story that I heard was that Raleigh USA had Raleigh UK build a number of lugged 753 team frames for them around 1985? They were painted here in the US. It's white with metal flakes in the clearcoat and has the same Technium, Team and Raleigh USA decals as the bikes pictured in this thread but the forks are black.

Here's some old photos by previous owners:

https://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/...eigh-Team-pro/

Note: the serial number is wrong in the BB photo. It's SB85xx

Does anyone here know when Raleigh USA went to these white frames with the red, white and blue "barber pole" design and purple lettering?

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That's really interesting that the livery didn't change much from 1985 to 1991
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Originally Posted by abbas350 View Post
That's really interesting that the livery didn't change much from 1985 to 1991
I have my doubts that the white paint scheme was applied in 1985, the scheme looks much later than that. It was probably a bare frame that raleigh USA had in stock but did not paint until later, or a repaint that they did for a sponsored rider, made to match the graphics of thier then present lineup.

Abbas350- interesting history tidbit for you, in 1992 raleigh bikes partially sponsored the national caliber TCBY amature racing team. A UT student and racer based out of Austin named Chris Murphy was on the TCBY team and raced on a white technium 753 much like your blue rattlecan frame.
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I have my doubts that the white paint scheme was applied in 1985, the scheme looks much later than that. It was probably a bare frame that raleigh USA had in stock but did not paint until later, or a repaint that they did for a sponsored rider, made to match the graphics of thier then present lineup.

Abbas350- interesting history tidbit for you, in 1992 raleigh bikes partially sponsored the national caliber TCBY amature racing team. A UT student and racer based out of Austin named Chris Murphy was on the TCBY team and raced on a white technium 753 much like your blue rattlecan frame.
That is an interesting bit, thanks for that, I'm gonna try to look him up!

also to update a little bit I've been doing a little graphic designing (now that school is out) and my remake logo for the top tube is almost dead on, but I still need some more shots of the frame's decals.

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I have the white 753 from eBay but have not had time to take photos yet.
I did get a set of 753 decals from H Lloyd Cycles in UK for it
This is a hires scan
https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4053/...02c3927b_o.jpg

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Here are a couple of quick pics. I will have to wait for the weekend to try for better.

I've looked all over this frame and cannot find a serial number.







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Here are a couple of quick pics. I will have to wait for the weekend to try for better.

I've looked all over this frame and cannot find a serial number.







Wow! That looks just like it (with the exception that the bonding points where the lugs meet the tubes is a flatter ring than on my frame which is a bit rounder) but thanks for postingt! I would LOVE to see the pics you take this weekend.

p.s. I totally just got my set of those reynolds 753 badges in the mail a few days ago from H Lloyd UK on ebay
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There is a Team Technium753 here that has bonding points like yours.

https://www.magma.ca/~cagrant/RaleighTechnium753.html

The seat cluster is different than both of ours.

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Hi abbas350, when your ready for decals, I can make them for you.

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Hi abbas350, when your ready for decals, I can make them for you.

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Do you stock decals? or do you make them? Also, I'm thinking of going with powder coating and clear coating, as far as i know that needs some kind of special decals that can take high heat, can you make those?
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Originally Posted by GMS View Post
There is a Team Technium753 here that has bonding points like yours.

The seat cluster is different than both of ours.

this one is a year older than mine (1990) so maybe yours is a year newer (1992)
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What size is your seatpost BTW? mine is a 25.0 mm (wierd i know, but i managed to get an awesome campy record aero post so all's well)
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Alright I think I'm finished, what do you guys think?



I thought I'd give it some in your face colors, CYMK colorway, think it's gonna pop.
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Did you look at the Bicycling mag review of the 1990 753 Technium?
This make me think 1990 was the first time they used 753 with Technium bonding.
https://www.magma.ca/~cagrant/Raleigh753Article.pdf

The Special Products Division of Raleigh of England was probably bonding 753 much earlier.
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According to;
https://www.cyclemuseum.org.uk/ncl/pi...20Library).pdf

Raleigh -England was using a bonded steel tubing process they relabeled as Dyna-Tech, supplied to the pro system-U team starting in 1989.
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Originally Posted by GrayJay View Post
According to;
https://www.cyclemuseum.org.uk/ncl/pi...20Library).pdf

Raleigh -England was using a bonded steel tubing process they relabeled as Dyna-Tech, supplied to the pro system-U team starting in 1989.
Bonded steel?? Why go the bonded process with steel when bazing's been a long time tested way of putting together frames, plus if I understand correctly, the 753 tubing has special characteristics that actually make it stronger at the joints after it is heated (was it called "air tempering"??) Just wondering why they will go with a cold bonding process and not use that feature to advantage?

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Did you look at the Bicycling mag review of the 1990 753 Technium?
This make me think 1990 was the first time they used 753 with Technium bonding.
https://www.magma.ca/~cagrant/Raleigh753Article.pdf

The Special Products Division of Raleigh of England was probably bonding 753 much earlier.
yeah i totally agree, but hey i'm almost done with my decals and all i really need now is to get the sizes right, so could you possibly give me the dimensions of the top tube, seat tube, down tube and fork designs? along with the american flag. I'm so close i can taste it.
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