What's with calling aluminum "ALLOY" instead of aluminum alloy?
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That's the style I referred to upthread as what I thought of as a "mag wheel" when I was a kid.
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It definitely goes back to the 40's and earlier. Early aluminum / aluminium usage put a great emphasis on specific alloys that were trademarked or patented or whatever.
GB (Gerry Burgess) used to forge brakes, stems, etc. of "hiduminium"; not a model, but a patented/trademarked metal which was, of course, an aluminum alloy.
Brake bridges, pumps, and other parts were made of "britannialloy" which is another patented/trademarked aluminum alloy. This stuff is not forged, but bent sheet metal.
Sturmey Archer hub shells of that period are sometimes made of aluminum; they are stamped "alloy."
Another common aluminum alloy is duralumin. Aren't some early cotterless cranks made of that?
By the way, an alloy is not a mixture of two metals, but of a metal and one or more other materials, which may or may not be metallic. Steel, for example, is composed of iron (which is a metal) and carbon (which is not).
GB (Gerry Burgess) used to forge brakes, stems, etc. of "hiduminium"; not a model, but a patented/trademarked metal which was, of course, an aluminum alloy.
Brake bridges, pumps, and other parts were made of "britannialloy" which is another patented/trademarked aluminum alloy. This stuff is not forged, but bent sheet metal.
Sturmey Archer hub shells of that period are sometimes made of aluminum; they are stamped "alloy."
Another common aluminum alloy is duralumin. Aren't some early cotterless cranks made of that?
By the way, an alloy is not a mixture of two metals, but of a metal and one or more other materials, which may or may not be metallic. Steel, for example, is composed of iron (which is a metal) and carbon (which is not).
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used to be pretty common back in the '70s to misuse the term "alloy" to mean aluminum. It probably was a term coined earlier than that.
I was trying to think of an example. Aluminum wheels for cars are still called "alloy wheels." Check google.
I'm guessing you'll find most bike catalogs called aluminum rims "alloy rims" until steel rims went away.
I was trying to think of an example. Aluminum wheels for cars are still called "alloy wheels." Check google.
I'm guessing you'll find most bike catalogs called aluminum rims "alloy rims" until steel rims went away.
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what are track ends and what do they have to do with track dropouts?
https://www.cycle-frames.com/bicycle-...DROP-REAR.html
https://www.cycle-frames.com/bicycle-...DROP-REAR.html
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what are track ends and what do they have to do with track dropouts?
https://www.cycle-frames.com/bicycle-...DROP-REAR.html
https://www.cycle-frames.com/bicycle-...DROP-REAR.html
What irks me is people calling dropouts "drops". That should be reserved for the lower ends of drop handlebars.
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Spanner is the British word for wrench.
That's why it bugs me when I hear Americans say "spanner wrench"!
That's why it bugs me when I hear Americans say "spanner wrench"!
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But Tom, a "spanner wrench" is a real and rather specific tool. You've seen those bungs etc. with equidistant round holes in them? The spanner has pins to engage those holes to tighten or loosen the whatsis.
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6061 and 7005 aluminum are actually alloys, they contain small amounts of magnesium and silicon for 6061 and zinc in 7005 (I think). But steel is also an alloy so it's kind of a silly distinction to make. I agree it was mostly done for shorter marketing slogans. Stainless is also an alloy so you can tell people you have an entirely alloy wheel, unless it's all carbon.
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They use graphite in pencils as well....so ya gotta figure its also a good choice to make a bike with
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If you aren't pulling my leg at this point, you ought to read an English-American dictionary. Boot means trunk of a car, in British English. And bonnet means hood. And tappet means valve lifter or something like that.
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The roads in England must be horrible, I hear people talking about their flats there all the time.
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They think warm ale is the dog's bollocks, I think they like it because that's all there is since the icebox is made by Lucas, Prince of Darkness
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"Aluminium" is the British spelling and pronunciation of what American's call "aluminum", see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium. But they use "tin foil" to call what American's call "aluminum foil".
I can't really say I've heard bicycle people using "alloy" to refer generically to aluminum alloy. Car people seem to do that with "alloy wheels". But bicycle ad's always seem to specify the material.
I can't really say I've heard bicycle people using "alloy" to refer generically to aluminum alloy. Car people seem to do that with "alloy wheels". But bicycle ad's always seem to specify the material.
The British also say Hoovering to mean vacuuming just as we say xeroxing to mean copying.
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What is even sillier is that we drive on the parkway and park on the driveway.
And why does fat chance mean the same thing as slim chance.
Got to go now; I'm fixing to eat lunch.
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If one needs a spanner but does not have the proper size one can use a Crescent wrench. Unless it is a French bike, in which case one uses a croissant wrench.
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Oh, and your charcoal isn't pure carbon either, briquettes contain all sorts of other things and even good hardwood charcoal has bits of other things in it. But there's no need to be pedantic, language changes and evolves and we are all generally aware of what people are talking about when they mention "alloy rims", which is what matters to most people.