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Old 04-30-10, 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by cudak888
Westrick pattern.

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What he said. As they're referred to as either, and "westrick" is a colloquialism due to the combination of flat sides (as in the endricks) and the raised spoke bed (like the westwoods), it doesn't really seem to matter which you call them.
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I am wondering how they found a fork crown from a 1985 Schwinn SS?
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Originally Posted by noglider
I can't find 700a or 700b with google. What sizes are they?
Also plain old 700 (obsolete except the pair in my basement) ...these are also found on page 12-24 of Sutherlands(4th ediion).

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The Sun rims do come in 32h and 40h, but not in Westrick pattern.
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Originally Posted by mickey85
Also, the CR18's only come with 36 spoke holes - I'd need 32/40 for both bikes in question.
I bought a 40-hole 590mm CR-18 rim from AE Bike not long ago:

https://aebike.com/product/sun-cr-18-...m8489-qc30.htm

I don't see a listing for the 32-hole rim, however.

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Originally Posted by Bikedued
I am wondering how they found a fork crown from a 1985 Schwinn SS?
Probably a generic Long Shen casting available since the '80s.

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Originally Posted by mickey85

Anyway, it's not the same as the Sun rims (which are just simple, standard rims), but it has a raised spoke bed so that the brakes don't take a flying leap of death into the spokes while riding.
What motivates brakes to take such a flying leap? It sounds like a problem that does not exist in post-1955 bikes.
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Originally Posted by Road Fan
What motivates brakes to take such a flying leap? It sounds like a problem that does not exist in post-1955 bikes.
Any and every bike with rod brakes has Westwood or Westrick hubs with the raised spokes. Most Raleighs that I've seen have Westrick wheels as a style thing. It's not a problem with caliper brakes, but with the rod brakes, being pressed to the inside of the surface allows them the chance to wiggle into the spokes.
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Originally Posted by mkeller234
I'm about one hour south of Cleveland, so far this year has definitely offered up less vintage finds. The few worthwhile ones that have popped up on CL are either gone in the blink of an eye or priced higher. I feel a little fortunate that I don't have any real needs, just wants.
I'm in South Cuyahoga County, N. Royalton. There really isn't anything around at all lately.
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My two cents on the "Why not 650A?" discussion, is that I'm pretty sure the various people in the US advocating 650B for the road in the beginning, were all either interested in, or owners of, French bikes designed for the size. There's no greater motivator for getting new tires made than that tires are suddenly completely unavailable for your favorite bike. Switching to 650A wheels rather than getting 650B tires made wasn't much of an option, since the 650A rims and tires available were not exactly top shelf. If you've got to have something made for you, you might as well have the correct size rims made for the bike, and that's 650B.

At this point, there are lots of very nice 650B tires and rims out there. There are a lot more nice 650A tires these days, but only one widely available option for rims. Sheldon's policy was always to carry every 650A and 650B road tire we could get our hands on, and that's still the case for the most part. Whatever 590ish wheel size you end up with, you at least have a lot more choices now than you did ten years ago.


This is veering seriously off topic, but the 590mm CR18 is still available in 32 and 40 hole drilling. We have a few in stock in both sizes:
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/rims/590.html

The earlier mentioned shop doesn't list the 32h cr18 because it's currently out of stock at the distributor. The software doesn't display items that the shop can't order right away. I could go on for hours about that, but I've said it all before.
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I asked Sheldon to build my Superbe up with a 700C wheelset. Looking back on it, I should have really opted for 650B but the wheel sizes of both seemed in danger of becoming rather obscure around the turn of the century. As Kevin points out, the situation in that respect is a lot brighter now than it was ten years ago.
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Originally Posted by mickey85
Looking at Sheldon's site, 700A is 642mm (and marked as obsolete), and 700b is 635, or the roadster style 28."

I"m assuming that means that all of the Raleigh roadsters, Pashleys, and a lot of Dutch bikes are 700B.

I'd like to try 584, maybe on the Fuji, but the cost of a wheelset is rather prohibitive.

I wish that I could find a relatively inexpensive set of new Raleigh pattern (read: rod brake) 590's. Be even better if someone made them in aluminum. But, while I'm wishing, I'd also like a pony
You know I have a pair of NOS 36 hole UKAI EA1 rims with some newish Mchelin ZIG zAGS to boot . The rims are wrapped in Fuji paper. If you fancied you could build some nice alloy club wheels.
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