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Old 04-28-10, 02:19 PM
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VO Bike Deal

I don't know if anyone would consider this a deal or not but here goes: http://www.velo-orange.com/powmibukit.html

While is isn't really vintage it is in keeping with the vintage spirit.
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Old 04-28-10, 02:24 PM
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Nice deal on a touring rig. Definitely a better deal than Surly, and almost certainly lighter. Vintage though? Not so much, imo. Now if it had lugs...
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yeah really enticing IMO. I'm on the hunt for a bike/frameset to build up as a fully loaded tourer.
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I don't really have any reason to buy it, but it does seem like a nice deal.
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I think that one can procure one of these at about a fifth of the cost as a whole bike and be equally as happy:

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Originally Posted by EjustE View Post
I think that one can procure one of these at about a fifth of the cost as a whole bike and be equally as happy:
That is a new vs used apples and oranges argument. This is only going to derail this topic into the typical "inefficient used market" "over priced new goods" argument. The VO build kit compares well against current NEW offerings and not quite as well to the $20.00 Pinerello. We can compare it to a 93 Bridgestone as soon as you get your time machine up and running.
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Fifteen years from now, someone will be posting here about the VO tourer they picked up at a yard sale for $75.00.
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E, can you compare that Bridgestone X0-4 to a RB-T?

The RB-T gets a lot of praise on the interwebs as a Tourer but I can't tell why from looking at the catalog.
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E, can you compare that Bridgestone X0-4 to a RB-T?

The RB-T gets a lot of praise on the interwebs as a Tourer but I can't tell why from looking at the catalog.
Totally different bikes. All X0-n bikes had 26 inch tires (the earlier ones) and loads of clearance to accept fenders on 38mm tires. They had different frames. The X0-4 had double butted CroMo frame, higher models had triple butted Ishi frames. All of them (other than the X0-1 which was a different beast on itself with RX100 road components) had MTB components (Altus for the XO-4) with ridiculously big chainrings for MTB (the XO-4 had 50/40/28), but even the Bridgestone MTBs had big big chainrings. The RB-T was a touring bike. 700c x 26 tires, RX100 triple components. Those 26" tire Bridgestone hybrids were really something very unique (and pricey) at the time. An X0-1 would sell for $1200 or so (if you could find one) back then... that's a huge premium for a hybrid bike.
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+1 Compared to other new bikes, a pretty decent deal. Comparing to vintage bikes is not a fair comparison, BUT, this is a vintage and classic forum. Right now, you can find a nice vintage touring bike complete at or below this price point (and the VO bike is not complete). And of course, I do not buy any bicycles new (or cars, houses, etc.).

+1 Used market is inefficient, which causes some good to excellent deals out there.

Always good to see someone wade in and produce a modern bike with some vintage characteristics!
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It's a nice start, but omits the BB and Crankset, which is where you're going to spend a good deal of cash (not to mention every other missing piece). Were I to spend that much toward a touring rig, I'd like a full bike - not a frame, fork, and wheelset.

For the same price (or substantially less), with some hunting one could easily land an old Trek touring rig or a higher-end 80's asian-market touring bike. Seems to me that after some TLC and smart shopping, one could be off on their journey on a vintage touring rig for much less money.

But that's just me.
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Old 04-28-10, 04:57 PM
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I'm not sure the Polyvalent would be the ideal touring rig as it has a long top tube relative to the seat tube to accommodate upright/swept-back handlebars. It's marketed as more of a city bike/ commuter.

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Originally Posted by nlerner View Post
I'm not sure the Polyvalent would be the ideal touring rig as it has a long top tube relative to the seat tube to accommodate upright/swept-back handlebars. It's marketed as more of a city bike/ commuter.
Agree with the characterization of a city bike/commuter (plus trail bike), but... here is how it is marketed (from the VO website - frames section, cut and paste) :

Velo Orange frames are inspired by the famous French constructeur bicycles of the 1950s, 60, and 70s. This period saw the rise of a small group of highly skilled builders, the constructeurs, who developed superbly refined bicycles, probably the best ever made. They built not only frames, but hand made racks, and stems and brakes, and even crank sets designed to work together perfectly. They also perfected low-trail geometry which was designed not for racing, but to handle perfectly and provide a relaxed and comfortable ride even after 12 hours in the saddle.
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Old 04-28-10, 05:30 PM
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Looks to me like a nice way to have a sale on things that perhaps aren't moving so well without the dilution of your brand that often attends having a sale.
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All of them were designed by a young American named Grant Petersen. His influence shows up in the Bridgestone XO cult bikes and it led to a falling out with the parent company in Japan. After Bridgestone quit the bike business, Petersen went on to found Rivendell and as they say the rest is history.
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Ha... I am just hoping this doesn't turn into another "VO is the devil" thread.
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I think you meant one of those what the f*k is Rivendell all about BF bike threads. I think we have enough of those already!
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Meh - fork blade kink reminds me of Raleigh's cheap work of the '70s.

The flat black just isn't pretty either; it makes it look like yet another... ...fixie.

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The VO bike looks ok and all that, but I can't understand why the balloon tires on a road bike.
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I like the kit idea, and that's a reasonable price.

I compare it to Performance's aluminiuminumium road frame, on sale for $99, and then add in all the other stuff, and it's very reasonable.

I can see about $1000 making that a really nice tourer. Hat's off to VO for being out there.
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i think its a great deal, but i have a hard time getting behind new 650b frames. i can see old frame conversions for bigger tires and fenders, but for a new bike why not roll 26" or 700c with a frame that can accommodate them (ie fatties fit fine).
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Speaking of 1993 Bridgestone XO4's, I've got a tiny one that did come out of a time capsule. The tires still have nubs on them, and the head badge still has the plastic covering over it. I've put fenders and a rack on it, and it needs a new home!

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Originally Posted by illwafer View Post
i think its a great deal, but i have a hard time getting behind new 650b frames. i can see old frame conversions for bigger tires and fenders, but for a new bike why not roll 26" or 700c with a frame that can accommodate them (ie fatties fit fine).
The big draw for the VO Polyvalent frame is it is a low trail bike. So it likes to have its load up front compared to a normal high trail bike's standard rear loading. I do not know of a frame/fork that you can buy off the shelf for 26" (which I will never ride again) or 700c that is also low trail. I have thought about the Poly mini build kit for myself, but I would build it up with drop bars. The only thing holding me back is it would replace a 700c Kogswell frame that is just way to flexy (ghost shifts if I get out of the saddle), and I am worried that the VO would do the same.
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Originally Posted by JunkYardBike View Post
+1 about this thread so far, not the bike. The bike is great.

@RedXJ, you are quickly becoming one of the members of this forum who I identify with most closely when it comes to our thinking about bicycles.
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