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Old 04-28-10, 05:03 PM
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Self-Supported Touring: Outfitting, Gear & Packing

Lots of talk this week about Touring Bikes. Probably the weather getting nice and folks are starting to think about getting out for the whole weekend...I'm talking about at least one overnight, possibly more. I'm not talking so much about crossing the continent but if you've done that and want to talk about it thats cool too.

So Once you've got a bike that you've decided to travel on whats next?

A Rear rack? Front Rack too? Lowrider Rack?

Handlebar bag? Big handlebar box? Seat Bag? Panniers...front or rear or both? Backpack?


What do you accessorize your bike with? Water Bottles? How many? ...or is a Camlebak better? Fenders? Lights? Spare Parts? Tubes? Tires? Patch Kit? Tools?

What about camping gear for staying outside? Some of that stuff seems hard to put on a bike like a tent, sleeping bag or sleeping pad.

What else?



I'm assuming all this recent interest in "Touring Bikes" is because people want to actually tour
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Depends on what you are planning to do, how long the tour is, how well you mapped the route (water stops, food stops, sleep stops and contigent stops for each of this category; you gotta do that ). You can easily carry an appropriate tent (the tent is not an issue the frame supports might be an issue; need to fold smallish), pad and bag on a bike (that's what the rear rack is for). Camelbacks and Backpacks have to do with how much you are going to ride daily and how comfortable you are riding with that stuff on your back. I suspect that these days a GPS might be very useful for bike touring. Lots and lots of different kinds of touring and lots and lots of ways of making it happen. If you are coming to the PA C&V ride on the 15th, let's chat (and if so, you gotta remind me to dig and bring a couple of books to give you for inspiration )
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Yeah I am actually asking because I'm doing an overnight camping trip to get down there by bike
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well, obviously the touring forum is the more appropriate place to ask, but it's more dead there, and i'm really excited to hear the C&Ver perspective on this. we need lots of pictures!!

anyone tour with period-correct camping gear? there's all kind of space-age lightweight camping gear now, but we all know bike touring had its heyday 25ish years ago.
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I thought about throwing it all in one of those kiddy trailers but I gave my kiddy trailer to a fella with kiddies last weekend.
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Originally Posted by Zaphod Beeblebrox View Post
I'm assuming all this recent interest in "Touring Bikes" is because people want to actually tour
Sure, just like the interest in track bikes is driven by the throngs of people flocking to the velodrome.


Cynical yes, but I sincerely hope my suspicion is wrong...
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And on a slightly more helpful note, the Fully Loaded Touring gallery is very interesting, though most of these rigs appear to be outfitted for long hauls.
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My idea of touring is careful use of a credit card, and pack light, really light. When I want to camp, I take the motorcycle instead.

Portal RV Campground: Moab, UT. Highly recommended.


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Originally Posted by Chris_in_Miami View Post
And on a slightly more helpful note, the Fully Loaded Touring gallery is very interesting, though most of these rigs appear to be outfitted for long hauls.
+1 on this. Many great inspiration ideas (and many different kinds of bikes) to see how others are doing it
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Originally Posted by jtgotsjets View Post
well, obviously the touring forum is the more appropriate place to ask
Duh! I forgot we had one of those ...I dont really visit the other forums except Alt Bikes occasionally...and I think only about a dozen other people ever actually go there

I considered a Kiddy trailer too...it looks kinda less awesome than a pack mule of a bike. but honestly I think that might be the best route to go, there's so many advantages. Someone should make a teardrop style camping trailer for bikes.

Chris, I share your cynicism and hope.
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Having now 5 years of trailer experience w/kid, were I going for heavily loaded touring, I'd go with trailer rather than racks.

My sister did a self-supported solo venture coast to coast 2 summers ago, used a trailer. She used to be a rack person and has all sorts of long trekking trips behind her, but swears by the trailer approach now.
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Off the top of my head:

Bags. You could certainly get away with a rear rack and two panniers for a weekend trip. I would discourage you from wearing a back pack. A handlebar bag can be handy for quick access to money, camera, and map. Waterproof panniers are nice, but you can get a basic good quality set and put a heavy duty garbage bag in it and accomplish nearly the same thing. Do this with your sleeping bag also.

Food. You'll probably bring too much if you pack all meals. I am a fan of trail mix, bagels, and peanut butter. Do some research and see if there are any Delis or similar within a few miles of where you'll be camping. Don't be afraid to stop for two breakfasts and an early lunch Bear problem? Bring a bear bag and enough rope to make a suitable stash.

Heat. If I go for over night rides in the heat of the summer, I am up and rolling at day break to beat the heat. Even with a couple of stops and a slower pace when fully loaded down, it's very possible to pound out 70 miles in hilly country by early afternoon. Eat, take a nap, walk around, swim, and go to bed. Ahhhh, what a day!

Water. I have a water bottle on the bike, and my camelback bladder lashed to the top of the rear rack. I put my sleeping bag or pad over it to keep the sun from warming it up too much.

Tools. I bring a small adjustable wrench, pliers, glue patches, one tube, and allen key set.

Lights. Blinky light on the rear, and a very visible shirt if I'm in a high traffic area.


Have fun with your adventures!
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Originally Posted by jtgotsjets View Post
well, obviously the touring forum is the more appropriate place to ask, but it's more dead there, and i'm really excited to hear the C&Ver perspective on this. we need lots of pictures!!

anyone tour with period-correct camping gear? there's all kind of space-age lightweight camping gear now, but we all know bike touring had its heyday 25ish years ago.
Pretty much. Below is a picture of my '84 touring bike on the way to Yosemite last year. The panniers are from '79 (Bike Warehouse - which is now Nashbar), the handlebar bag is a Kirtland from early '80s, the sleeping bag inside one of the panniers is a North Face from '76, the tent (also inside a pannier) is a Sierra Designs from '84, but the rear rack is an Ascent from '09. But I haven't really noticed that much of a change in lightweight camping gear - my stuff from 25 years ago is about as light as what I see available today.



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Some vintage set-ups my GF and I toured part of Europe on: http://internationalodyssey.blogspot...1_archive.html

The big guy is a powdercoated 1984 Nishiki International and the little one is a 1989.
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Awesome stuff folks, seeing picstures of em all loaded up helps met visualize this whole thing.

Kevin that was a most helpful post
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Just to help you visualize the trailer. One of the benefits of using a kids trailer is that drivers assume there is a kid inside and tend to cut you a lot more slack. Just the other day I loaded the trailer up w/a bunch of packages to drop off at the post office - on the way home, a lady drive shouted out at me, "I'll bet that baby is having a great ride..".

Another nice thing about trailers is that, at least in my experience, they have less effect on the handling than loading everything up on the bike. When my sister first bought this for me after my son was born, I was extremely dubious of the whole concept and didn't even assemble it for a year or so - I was very predisposed to dislike the concept. But I love the things now, although if I was carrying minimal stuff for a weekend trip, I would probably try to stuff it all into rear panniers as other posters suggest. However, if I were carrying so much stuff that I started having to carry lots of stuff up high and up front, then I'd probably go for the trailer.

Finally, one last consideration for trailers - once you get to your motel/campsite/stopping place, all you have to do is simply unhook the trailer and you have your nice, lighweight sport touring bike back.

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