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Old 05-03-10, 08:45 PM
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Ever broken a leather saddle with your behind?

I got this Raleigh Sports over the winter and the Brooks saddle was in pretty bad shape. Well, I got it in rideable condition over the weekend and after going up and down the block a few times, I rolled back up into the driveway and the jolt from hitting the incline made my butt tear the leather clean apart. Haha!

My massive 150lb frame was too much for that old leather to handle!

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It's been a while since I've looked. Are there any decent leather saddles that cost a significant amount less than a brooks? I don't really care if it's as high quality as a brooks as it won't see nearly as much use as my main bike. I have a really nice brooks on that one already.
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There are some Chinese ones on Ebay that look like they are ok for about $60

There might be links here on this thread
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...=#post10761153
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Shipping kills me! I can find a couple different models in the $60 range but after shipping the cheapest I've found is $70. I got my Brooks at a steal of a price on Craigslist but I haven't seen any on there since I got it over a year ago. Not a reliable method of getting a cheap brooks.

The Persons saddles look pretty nice and are priced well at $58, but $12 shipping puts it up to $70.

I always hear people around here talking about the brooks saddles they got on ebay for cheap, but every brooks I see on ebay ends up going for $80+
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I did that once too, to a B-15. Came on an old Continental, I was distressed when it happened, and I was even more distressed when I found out how much a new one would cost me.
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Tore the nose off a B.17 once, though that was after 1,000 miles of riding.



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Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
Tore the nose off a B.17 once, though that was after 1,000 miles of riding.



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Impressive! I just tore the leather, but you ripped part of the metal frame off too. Wow!
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I ripped an avocet touring II saddle I almost crashed after hitting a patch of sand while turning at full speed, I took my feet off the pedals to stabilize and put all my weight on the saddle luckily I avoided laying the bike down and it made a good excuse to buy a brooks.
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Originally Posted by flammenwurfer View Post
Impressive! I just tore the leather, but you ripped part of the metal frame off too. Wow!
Not exactly - when it split, it split down the entire length of the nose, hence, the U-shaped bracket that the nose bolt fits against shot off, along with the nose.

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Caution children and the faint at heart! The following scene depicts C&V torture in a disturbing image. You may choose to skip the next image! Only a "Drewed" steel frame is more offensive.



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Originally Posted by flammenwurfer View Post
Shipping kills me! I can find a couple different models in the $60 range but after shipping the cheapest I've found is $70. I got my Brooks at a steal of a price on Craigslist but I haven't seen any on there since I got it over a year ago. Not a reliable method of getting a cheap brooks.

The Persons saddles look pretty nice and are priced well at $58, but $12 shipping puts it up to $70.

I always hear people around here talking about the brooks saddles they got on ebay for cheap, but every brooks I see on ebay ends up going for $80+
Cheapest good leather saddles I have ever found came mounted on bikes. Bought a Brooks "mounted" to a Schwinn Supersport for $11.
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Cardiff saddle is a lower cost version of the Brooks you can buy them at Universal.
I've got a used but in good shape B-17 I was going to put up on eBay.
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Caution children and the faint at heart! The following scene depicts C&V torture in a disturbing image. You may choose to skip the next image! Only a "Drewed" steel frame is more offensive.
Heck, the old trooper got me home like that too.

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Cardiff saddle is a lower cost version of the Brooks you can buy them at Universal.
Its a low cost tensioned leather saddle. Its a far cry from a brooks in quality.

I had a bad experience with a Cardiff saddle not too long ago and I am duty bound to badmouth their saddles at every turn.

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Originally Posted by Zaphod Beeblebrox View Post
Its a low cost tensioned leather saddle. Its a far cry from a brooks in quality.

I had a bad experience with a Cardiff saddle not too long ago and I am duty bound to badmouth their saddles at every turn.
What exactly was this bad experience? Did it just fall apart? or what?
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I ride Ideale saddles only - just a preference since they're not made anymore...
They range in price depending on condition. For my rain bike, I have a $15 one, others are $40-$75 via e-bay. Below is the $75 one (ideale 80 NOS)


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My first Brooks was a used saddle that lasted about 3 weeks, cost me $10 and gave me just enough experience with it let me know that I like that type of leather saddle. Going on my third year with the Brooks Imperial from when Brooks had the BF folks doing the final testing.
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Originally Posted by flammenwurfer View Post
What exactly was this bad experience? Did it just fall apart? or what?

The leather was super super soft and flexy. So much that on my second ride on the saddle I could feel the metal frame of the saddle digging into me and the saddle developed a big ridge down the center that would wedge itself nicely right where you figure it would....not comfy. The divots in the leather from my sit bones were extremely pronounced (to the point of discomfort) after 2 rides.

I do weigh nearly 200 pounds so perhaps a lighter weight fellow would have better luck than I.

I returned it and exchanged for a Brooks Flyer. I'm very happy.
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Originally Posted by Zaphod Beeblebrox View Post
The leather was super super soft and flexy. So much that on my second ride on the saddle I could feel the metal frame of the saddle digging into me and the saddle developed a big ridge down the center that would wedge itself nicely right where you figure it would....not comfy. The divots in the leather from my sit bones were extremely pronounced (to the point of discomfort) after 2 rides.

I do weigh nearly 200 pounds so perhaps a lighter weight fellow would have better luck than I.

I returned it and exchanged for a Brooks Flyer. I'm very happy.
Ouch, that sounds pretty unpleasant. It would probably just take longer for the same thing to occur with a lighter rider.

I find it strange that there seems to be a number of people trying to make an alternative to Brooks, but nobody can get one to market for a significant discount. The VO saddles look nice but at basically the same price as a Brooks, I'm not sure what the advantage is.

Persons saddles look nice as well, but ordering from their website scares me. And at $70 with shipping it's close, but not quite the price difference I'm looking for. If the shipping were lower I'd probably bite. Plus, they show as out of stock for a number of models and have for over a year now.
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I agree with you 100% on all points and I've wanted to try a new Persons saddle for a while now as well even though I don't have high hopes for them.

Another forum member summed it up pretty nicely a while back in my opinion. They said something along the lines of "Compared to the competitors, a Brooks costs about as much more as a few days worth of buying Lunch; Bring your lunch for a couple of days if you want to offset the cost of having the real thing" ...I'm paraphrasing but that was the long and short of it.
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I have a B-72 with a rip in the middle. There isn't really anything I can do about it, is there?
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I had a B72 let go like Kurt's saddle did a couple years ago. Scared me enough as it was when the nose piece went off with a bang, but the bugger bounced off my stem, hit me in the knee, then smacked the guy riding next to me.

Lessons learned:#1. Don't ride a leather saddle with splits at the rivets by the nose piece. #2. Bring the cell phone along to call the missus for a ride.


#2 rarely works, tho. Especially if the missus feels it 'isn't proper' to be seen driving your 'beat up pickup'.
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