The Raleigh has a five speed SA5-2. It's nearly finished. I'm waiting for a seatpost to arrive. It's a grocery getter with large front basket and a double kickstand.

I don't know how to describe the bars I'm using except to say they're steel and upright. I'll post more pictures soon. I came up with some unique cable routing that I think some people will find interesting.

Sounds fun. Can't wait for pics of it finished!

I'm not very familiar with the SA5-2 hub. Does that require 2 shifters?

Two shifters.

That's a dangerous question to ask! In the current stable are the following 3/4-speed internal-gear hub bikes:

Originally came with IGHs:
'37 Raleigh Sports
'49 Raleigh Clubman
'50 Raleigh Clubman
'51 Raleigh Clubman
'50/51 Raleigh Lenton Tourist
'66 Raleigh all-chrome Sports
'70s Rudge Sports (w/ 700c wheels and Bendix 2-speed hub)

Bikes that have been modified w/ IG hubs:
'72 Raleigh Super Course
'73 Raleigh Grand Sports

Then there are a couple of framesets that'll get built with IG hub wheels, my wife's 1970s Raleigh Sports, and a kid's 1957 Wendy Junior w/ AW hub that I'm hoping my daughter learns to ride this summer. I also have a '48 lady's Dawn Tourist and a '39 lady's DL-1 that I promised to sell to some friends quite a while back, but the bikes are still in my basement!

Neal

I count 13 in that list. If they're still in your possession I think they count. So 13 is the number to beat! (unless I miscounted)

Oh, boy, are we having a pissing contest?

Okay, I'm not sure how to count this, so let's just get started in chronological order...

1940 Schwinn New World (AW)
1950 Norman Rapide (FW)
1950? Norman (Tourist Model) (retrofitted with 1951 AG)
1958 Raleigh Lenton Grand Prix, (retrofitted t with 1951 FM)
1963 Raleigh Lenton Sports (AW with Benelux 2sp derailleur)
1965 Raleigh RSW-16 (AW; this is my wife's)
1964? Moulton Stowaway (retrofitted with 2007 XRF8)
1972? Lambert Grand Prix (retrofitted with 2010 XRD5)
1973 Raleigh Twenty (Retrofitted with a Shimano 333 or similar; my son rides this)
1973 Raleigh Twenty (AW; in pieces in my basement, waiting for reassembly and sale)
Unknown date Huffy 20" (retrofitted with AW; this is my daughter's)
2006 Kent Ultralight Folder (retrofitted with AW)(presently set up for my daughter)
2007 Downtube Mini (XRF8w)

And that's just the Sturmey Archer's!

I also have some non-Sturmey Archer hubs in bikes:
1960's "Flying Eagle" (retrofitted with Fichtel & Sachs Torpedo 515)(this is my wife's)
1982 Trek 720 (Shimano Nexus 8)
Unknown Mountain Bike with Xtracycle (NuVinci)
2009 Cheap Chinese Folding Bike (Shimano Nexus 4)

Aside from that, there are at least 3 more AW hubs/wheels in my basement; one Shimano 3-sp coaster hub; and an Austrian Sears hub as well.

Flammenwurfer, wanna total up my score for me?

I built this up to help me deal with my 3 speed addiction... it's French and has 6 speeds.

But have thought it might look good as a three speed... and the Huret derailleur would handle 1/8 chain if I ran a double... must... resist.

I count 17! As long as it's an IGH and it's on a bike, I'll count it. Just having a hub by itself doesn't count though.

Can anybody beat 17?

Oh, go for it! Isn't that the bike you said is your "beater"? A beater bike needs to be simple and low maintenance. A 3 speed would be perfect for a beater bike!

You are not helping.

And it already has a single chainring. An easy conversion!

Neal

I'm gonna go out and buy four more IGH bikes today so I can keep up with rhm!

Neal

How about I just send you three of mine?

Actually, I think my count is 16; I have to dispute the 17 number since one of the Raleigh Twenties is currently disassembled. Flam's standard stipulates the IGH has to be on a bike, and at the moment, it isn't.

Did you use the regular derailliuer guides for the IGH cables? I doing that on a few of my bikes, uses up the empty braze-ons and no need to Drew 'em.

Yes, but I would still count it because it does have a home. It is part of a bike even if it is disassembled to be serviced.

Do you mean the ones that go under the bottom bracket? Are there any issues with added friction compared to a pulley or just a full cable housing the whole way?

I'm doing that on my Lambert; shifter cable on the left side, drum brake cable on the right. It's not quite ideal, but as you say. Better have it in use than redundant or, worse, drewed.

There should be LESS friction, this is why dérailleur systems are often wired that way, a full cable housing would add a lot more friction. Some bikes now run bare brake cables as well, using housing only where needed.

Wahoonc has me beat as I only have six iGH bikes and only one has an old hub, a S5-2 Alloy in a Kona Humu cruiser frame.. The rest are a Rohloff Civia Hyland, SRAM iM9 on a Swobo Dixon, a NuVinci converted 1990 Trek 950, a SRAM P5 converted Japanese Duracycle frame and a Steelwool Tweed frame with an Alfine 8 speed. The Tweed and Duracycle are set up as drop bar IGH bikes.

With a three speed you can use brake cable instead of shifter cable as this is what 3 speed cable is on older bikes... there is almost no resistance / friction and running a full housing is a good idea on a bike that will probably be used in foul weather.

Did this with my Pug as she is gonna see some rain and bad weather and share rain duty with my Raleigh Sports which I also built as a rainy day bike.

I'm not sure whether there's more or less friction with a full housing. The full housing has the advantage of being sealed, so it stays clean; often lined with some kind of plastic (nylon? teflon?) and it can be lubricated as well. A pulley is very low friction, but a cable in a steel guide has quite a bit of friction, and is hard to keep clean/lubricated. Furthermore, the full housing route can avoid sharp turns, which are high friction points.

Aside from the friction issue, I think there's a different reason modern IGH's all run housing the whole way: by keeping the housing length constant, they can keep the gear cable adjusted right even if the wheel moves a little. Modern IGH's are often very sensitive to a maladjusted gear cable; in fact that's the chief problem with the SA XRF8, which is (was*) an excellent hub but the gear adjustment was too finicky.

It would be interesting to try to run an XRF8 in sloping dropouts with a pulley and fulcrum system; but I'm not sure how you'd work it. Probably can't.

*Edit: XRF8 is now replaced with XRF8w, with slightly wider ratios and less finicky cable adjustment; big improvement.

The S5-2 requires two shifters or the use of an original SA dual cable thumb shifter which was apparently not reliable though I have one that has never been used. I set mine up with a SA 3 speed trigger shifter on the right and a friction thumb shifter for the left cable per Sheldon's recommendation. Working fine IMO.

That's exactly what I'm doing on my Sports Tourer with newer SA single cable 5 speed and drum. I don't notice any degradation. I thought of it as I was mounting on of those flimsy SA plastic pullies right next to the guides. I still have empty brake cable stops on the top tube....

17 IGH bikes, that's great! I have only 6 IGH bikes, but none are three speeds. Two Alfines, one Nexus, one im9, one SACHs S7, one SA 5 speed. My current project is a Bendix 2 speed cruiser. I don't have any derailiuer bikes in the pool. A few old road bikes in storage, that's it. Everything else is an IGH or a single speed.

I have a few IGH's in the pool, waiting for bikes:

I'd think modern cable would be less resistance than any of the old cables, so using more housing shouldn't be that bad. If you were to do a full housing, would/could you just use the appropriate fulcrum and clamp on either the chainstay or brakestay?