c. itoh bikes? info
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c. itoh bikes? info
What can you tell me in general about Itoh bikes? One of the threads mentioned a C. Itoh boat anchor?!!
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I have one I have been riding for almost 35 years. I only recently purchased a new bike (AL w/ carbon forks) but the Itoh is still a more comfortable ride as far as I am concerned. Here is the description of my bike and some of the feedback I got on it from another vintage bike forum when I asked if it was worth restoring. The frame has some rust and that is why I had decided a second road bike would be a reasonable investment as a back up. As I am getting older, I wanted a light bike that was easy to throw into the car. The Itoh is HEAVY, in a collision with a truck it would probably come out the winner. See Sheldon Brown's webpages. https://www.sheldonbrown.com/japan.html
My bike:
Purchased new in 1969 or 1979 for discounted price of $150, lugged steel frame, 27 1/8 rims, RD: Suntour VGT, FD: Suntour, Crank: SR Maxi Cotterless, Dura Ace Centerpull brakes, Cassette 14-38, chainring 40-50, brooks style leather seat (Trico?), Chromed forks, Chromed fittings at bottom of headset, no fenders. Serial #110626 (This was before they made the kabuki models)
The Feedback on the bike:
While low-end Itoh could be found in department stores, they produced a full range, including some very nice models with double butted, CrMo framesets and top line Japanese components. Your bicycle sounds like the 271/273-HSP, which was 3rd in a line-up of 6 models in the early 1970s. A lower mid-range model, the frame on this model was single-butted, high tensile steel. So it is slightly better than your typical bike boom frame, as are the components. You don't give details on the wheels, but my specs indicate aluminum rims, and large flange, alloy, QR hubs. This, plus the Maxi and VGT were certainly superior to what you were getting on the popular Peugeot U08 and Raleigh Grand Prix at the time.
Itoh/C.Itoh was the Kabuki/Bridgestone importer during this era and some people feel that the Itoh brand may have been manufactured by Bridgestone, which was a well respected company.
However, in the end only you can decide whether it is worth a repaint. It's not a "crummy" bicycle and definitely better than the typical bike boom fare.
My bike:
Purchased new in 1969 or 1979 for discounted price of $150, lugged steel frame, 27 1/8 rims, RD: Suntour VGT, FD: Suntour, Crank: SR Maxi Cotterless, Dura Ace Centerpull brakes, Cassette 14-38, chainring 40-50, brooks style leather seat (Trico?), Chromed forks, Chromed fittings at bottom of headset, no fenders. Serial #110626 (This was before they made the kabuki models)
The Feedback on the bike:
While low-end Itoh could be found in department stores, they produced a full range, including some very nice models with double butted, CrMo framesets and top line Japanese components. Your bicycle sounds like the 271/273-HSP, which was 3rd in a line-up of 6 models in the early 1970s. A lower mid-range model, the frame on this model was single-butted, high tensile steel. So it is slightly better than your typical bike boom frame, as are the components. You don't give details on the wheels, but my specs indicate aluminum rims, and large flange, alloy, QR hubs. This, plus the Maxi and VGT were certainly superior to what you were getting on the popular Peugeot U08 and Raleigh Grand Prix at the time.
Itoh/C.Itoh was the Kabuki/Bridgestone importer during this era and some people feel that the Itoh brand may have been manufactured by Bridgestone, which was a well respected company.
However, in the end only you can decide whether it is worth a repaint. It's not a "crummy" bicycle and definitely better than the typical bike boom fare.
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Thanks so much for the intelligent reply. Ditto the quantity and quality of info.
I am going to sell it locally for $40.00. I knew I had seen the bike once or twice in my past (In the late sixties) when I was 15-16; I wanted to confirm the "positive vibe" I had recalling the bike.
Thanks again....
I am going to sell it locally for $40.00. I knew I had seen the bike once or twice in my past (In the late sixties) when I was 15-16; I wanted to confirm the "positive vibe" I had recalling the bike.
Thanks again....
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I have one I have been riding for almost 35 years. I only recently purchased a new bike (AL w/ carbon forks) but the Itoh is still a more comfortable ride as far as I am concerned. Here is the description of my bike and some of the feedback I got on it from another vintage bike forum when I asked if it was worth restoring. The frame has some rust and that is why I had decided a second road bike would be a reasonable investment as a back up. As I am getting older, I wanted a light bike that was easy to throw into the car. The Itoh is HEAVY, in a collision with a truck it would probably come out the winner. See Sheldon Brown's webpages. Japanese Bicycles in the U.S. Market
My bike:
Purchased new in 1969 or 1979 for discounted price of $150, lugged steel frame, 27 1/8 rims, RD: Suntour VGT, FD: Suntour, Crank: SR Maxi Cotterless, Dura Ace Centerpull brakes, Cassette 14-38, chainring 40-50, brooks style leather seat (Trico?), Chromed forks, Chromed fittings at bottom of headset, no fenders. Serial #110626 (This was before they made the kabuki models)
The Feedback on the bike:
While low-end Itoh could be found in department stores, they produced a full range, including some very nice models with double butted, CrMo framesets and top line Japanese components. Your bicycle sounds like the 271/273-HSP, which was 3rd in a line-up of 6 models in the early 1970s. A lower mid-range model, the frame on this model was single-butted, high tensile steel. So it is slightly better than your typical bike boom frame, as are the components. You don't give details on the wheels, but my specs indicate aluminum rims, and large flange, alloy, QR hubs. This, plus the Maxi and VGT were certainly superior to what you were getting on the popular Peugeot U08 and Raleigh Grand Prix at the time.
Itoh/C.Itoh was the Kabuki/Bridgestone importer during this era and some people feel that the Itoh brand may have been manufactured by Bridgestone, which was a well respected company.
However, in the end only you can decide whether it is worth a repaint. It's not a "crummy" bicycle and definitely better than the typical bike boom fare.
My bike:
Purchased new in 1969 or 1979 for discounted price of $150, lugged steel frame, 27 1/8 rims, RD: Suntour VGT, FD: Suntour, Crank: SR Maxi Cotterless, Dura Ace Centerpull brakes, Cassette 14-38, chainring 40-50, brooks style leather seat (Trico?), Chromed forks, Chromed fittings at bottom of headset, no fenders. Serial #110626 (This was before they made the kabuki models)
The Feedback on the bike:
While low-end Itoh could be found in department stores, they produced a full range, including some very nice models with double butted, CrMo framesets and top line Japanese components. Your bicycle sounds like the 271/273-HSP, which was 3rd in a line-up of 6 models in the early 1970s. A lower mid-range model, the frame on this model was single-butted, high tensile steel. So it is slightly better than your typical bike boom frame, as are the components. You don't give details on the wheels, but my specs indicate aluminum rims, and large flange, alloy, QR hubs. This, plus the Maxi and VGT were certainly superior to what you were getting on the popular Peugeot U08 and Raleigh Grand Prix at the time.
Itoh/C.Itoh was the Kabuki/Bridgestone importer during this era and some people feel that the Itoh brand may have been manufactured by Bridgestone, which was a well respected company.
However, in the end only you can decide whether it is worth a repaint. It's not a "crummy" bicycle and definitely better than the typical bike boom fare.
The first thing I notice about old bikes (motorcycles) is - how well it holds up to weather.
I have had Yamaha Maxim 700's that were made in the 80's essentially look like new in 2006.
My 83 honda nighthawk bought in 95 and sold in 2000 looked new.
My 93 GS500 - was rusting from day 1. The GS still is a great bike, but it was a PITA to get cleaned up and stank of the philosophy - If this crap rusts, the buyers will want a new bike in 2-3 yrs, and we wont have to warranty it cos rust isn't covered. That gives us a way to sell more crap to the same buyer.
Anyway, I think I am finding more reasons to keep this bike. Not that I am not tempted to slap the wheels on the Bianchi, throw the sugino maxy 165 mm crank on ebay and put on new crank and lighter wheels and fixie it.
But the frame will live with me, which is the whole point IMHO.
Cool.
Srinath.
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i had one that had a Nissan decal on the seat tube. I thought it was interesting to say the least. I wonder if they were handed back and forth between bridgestone and nissan back then.....
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Nissan or Nissin ? There is a lot of motorcycle parts that say Nissin on them. Brakes on jap bikes especially. Good parts maker if it is Nissin. Nissan didn't exist as a brand till the 80's did it ? Datsun was the old name.
The CItoh was not meant as a low end, it was meant to be high end, but they were yet to invent economical cro-moly in the 70's. In fact till the late 80's cro-moly was still $$$.
However I definitely think my brakes are junk on this C-Itoh, no way I am going to fix it with new pads. Have to change out the lever and the calipers.
Much of the rest ... just old, not especially bad. 27 X 1/8 steel chromed wheels, cos everything had that in the 70's, 5 speed rear, and 2 speed sugino maxi front with sunrace - this was before shimano ate the world ...
Old, not neccesarily crappy.
Brakes - definitely crappy.
Cool.
Srinath.
The CItoh was not meant as a low end, it was meant to be high end, but they were yet to invent economical cro-moly in the 70's. In fact till the late 80's cro-moly was still $$$.
However I definitely think my brakes are junk on this C-Itoh, no way I am going to fix it with new pads. Have to change out the lever and the calipers.
Much of the rest ... just old, not especially bad. 27 X 1/8 steel chromed wheels, cos everything had that in the 70's, 5 speed rear, and 2 speed sugino maxi front with sunrace - this was before shimano ate the world ...
Old, not neccesarily crappy.
Brakes - definitely crappy.
Cool.
Srinath.
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Nissan or Nissin ? There is a lot of motorcycle parts that say Nissin on them. Brakes on jap bikes especially. Good parts maker if it is Nissin. Nissan didn't exist as a brand till the 80's did it ? Datsun was the old name.
The CItoh was not meant as a low end, it was meant to be high end, but they were yet to invent economical cro-moly in the 70's. In fact till the late 80's cro-moly was still $$$.
However I definitely think my brakes are junk on this C-Itoh, no way I am going to fix it with new pads. Have to change out the lever and the calipers.
Much of the rest ... just old, not especially bad. 27 X 1/8 steel chromed wheels, cos everything had that in the 70's, 5 speed rear, and 2 speed sugino maxi front with sunrace - this was before shimano ate the world ...
Old, not neccesarily crappy.
Brakes - definitely crappy.
Cool.
Srinath.
The CItoh was not meant as a low end, it was meant to be high end, but they were yet to invent economical cro-moly in the 70's. In fact till the late 80's cro-moly was still $$$.
However I definitely think my brakes are junk on this C-Itoh, no way I am going to fix it with new pads. Have to change out the lever and the calipers.
Much of the rest ... just old, not especially bad. 27 X 1/8 steel chromed wheels, cos everything had that in the 70's, 5 speed rear, and 2 speed sugino maxi front with sunrace - this was before shimano ate the world ...
Old, not neccesarily crappy.
Brakes - definitely crappy.
Cool.
Srinath.
C.Itoh was a full range brand. They offered everything form entry level to pro level.
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Oh well, there goes my theory. As with most of my theories. LOL.
BTW how do I find the model of my C-Itoh ? The badge says c-Itoh, Japan. That's it.
Would serial number help find model name/number ?
Thanks.
Srinath.
BTW how do I find the model of my C-Itoh ? The badge says c-Itoh, Japan. That's it.
Would serial number help find model name/number ?
Thanks.
Srinath.
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You never know, maybe someone has put the info out there on the interwebs. The components and framebuild may be the only model ID you will find.
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The serial number will tell us the year but not the model. However, we may be able to identify the model based on the components. Post a good overall drive picture and pictures of the major components and tubing decal, if any. That will at least allow us to tell you the level of the bicycle and hopefully, the actual model name/number.
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I've had my C. Itoh for years. I love this bike. I took it on tour from Amsterdam to Paris and from Berlin to Prague back in 2013. Smooth steel ride, and relatively lightweight. The downtube says 'GUARANTEED WORLD FINEST BICYCLE PRECISION MECHANISM' which rules. I have gotten compliments (from folks more knowledgeable on steel frame construction) on the lugs and dropouts which makes me think this might be on the upper end of their quality line, thoughts? I got the bike stock from grandparents storage and it came with tubular wheels which I thought was odd.
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Of course we'd pictures to be sure but the slogan, in conjunction with a tubular wheelset, points towards a boom era, C.Itoh Professional Road Racer. The exact year is easily determined from the serial number.
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Here's a link to my photos:
https://milepost105.smugmug.com/1972-CITOH
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I know this is a zombie thread, but have an important question: were C. Itoh bikes manufactured by H. Tano?
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On of the bikes I had in High School was a C. Itoh that I got from a family friend. I was thinking about it a month ago when the half-step thread was going. It was the only half-step I rode before this year. I couldn't remember what the brand was.
Thanks to this thread, I don't have to continue trying to remember.
Thanks to this thread, I don't have to continue trying to remember.
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