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Old 05-24-10, 07:14 AM
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Speciailized Allez Pro 1993-5

I'm interested in buying this bike but don't know a ton about it, it is a Specialized Allez Pro from some time in the 90's, from what I can find I think it's a 93. I hope to be using this a road bike for longer rides and whatnot, I currently ride a fixed gear road bike but I'm in the search for something with gears so I can do longer rides into the Piedmont and what have you. Anyways, the seller is asking $400 for it, is this a good buy or not? I'd like to know about the tubing, and how light and stiff it is and also, how good is the Shimano 600 line? I know Ultegra is supposed to be really good but how does 1993 Ultegra compare to newer lines such as Sora or Tiagra or 105? Here is the Ad:

Specialized Allez Pro 58cm road bike. The bike is in excellent condition, barely a scratch anywhere. A tuneup was done a couple of months ago, new tires/tubes and grip tape were installed. I bought the bike from the original owner, it ended up being a little too big for me so I bought a 56cm bike. It has the full Shimano 600 (Ultegra) group. The bike also comes with a Cateye cadence computer (needs battery).







Thanks for any help you guys might offer.
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That is, without a doubt, my favorite lugged steel mass-produced road frame. I've had 4 in my life, and currently have 2 - one for me and one for my wife.

$400 is the top end of what I would pay for a complete bike in excellent condition, which it looks like it is. I'd buy it.

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Yeah, I think I'm going to jump on this if he hasn't sold it yet. Only because of all of the great things I hear about the Shimano 600 groupo, especially since it is a very modern version of the line (has STI shifters). I think I'd prefer a more modern ALU frame, just to switch things up from my current old steel conversion fixed gear, but this frame will probably be miles better than what I ride now.
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Welp, I sealed the deal, I'm picking it up Wednesday. Hope it fits cause I have to buy it regardless since the seller is doing me a favor by meeting me at a halfway point.
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If it doesn't fit......

Very good bike, wel set up and well equipped. My opinion is that it would have to be a pretty nice Al frame to beat this deal.

An STI 600 bike, set up and ready, for $400. After you get it, ride to your nearest LBS and let us know what they offer you for $400. And keep smiling.
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Yeah, that bike is just my size, if you don't like it, let me know and I'd be happy to buy at least the frame off you.

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Well, I'm glad everyone thinks this is a good deal, I started questioning it when I saw that people in the Post your Specialized Allez thread were talking about picking up there new Allez for around the $450-$650 range.

Does anyone know why the older early 90's Allez pro's retailed at $1,400 but newer ones retail less than $1,000. Or am I just seeing the prices wrong or something?
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Well, I'm glad everyone thinks this is a good deal, I started questioning it when I saw that people in the Post your Specialized Allez thread were talking about picking up there new Allez for around the $450-$650 range.

Does anyone know why the older early 90's Allez pro's retailed at $1,400 but newer ones retail less than $1,000. Or am I just seeing the prices wrong or something?
I'll take a stab at it: marketing.

This is the transition era from steel to aluminum and DT to STI that everyone went through, and every bike seller wanted to retain older customers and draw in new ones, both entry level and upgraders.

The Allez Pro was higher on the Specialized steel pecking order back then, but they offered fewer road models in steel, and it wasn't competing against a ton of aluminum bikes. If you are Specialized, during this era, you have three target customers:

1) Entry-level buyers who had heard of or seen your steel lineup earlier.
2) Previous owners of Specialized, familiar with the brand, who were moving up, to both aluminum and STI.
3) New buyers who were discerning, and wanted the latest greatest, within reason, namely a Trek or it's competition.

For entry level buyers 1) above, re-using the Allez or Epic name on good, solid entry-level bikes was a good idea. It capitalized on the name recognition and quality reputation of the steel models. The price was affordable, and the entry-level buyer could say "yeah, I have an Allez" and have a psycological connection to the earlier, excellent steel models. Because they were good bikes, well priced, the feedback was positive.

For repeat buyers 2), Specialized knew they'd be in the store, looking at the new Allez, Epic, whatever. They also knew that buyer would recognize the difference in the lineup position of the newer models vs. the older models, but they now had them on site and could move them to the newer models, confident in their reputation, and eager to show them the new stuff. Because they were good bikes, well-priced, the feedback was generally positive.

For the discerning market 3), they simply wanted them in the store, and were confident they had a better, newer hot rod than the price-point comparable Trek. (In 1993, you competed against Trek, period). The risk involved in keeping the Allez and the Epic, etc as the flagship models was higher. Doing that invites comparison with the older models, and the bike magazines could make or break you with one critical review saying "not as good as the older ones..." (Paramount went through this. After spending time and money on the OS frame, they couldn't offer it competitively priced with upscale components, and the model line suffered for it.)

Specialized could have gone ahead and put the "newer" Allez and others in the same place as the lineup they were in the steel era, but why risk the "not as good as the older one" problem, when you can sell new Allez's to entry level buyers, keep your previous steel customers with your new models, and compete against Trek and others with a "clean slate" lineup? My feeling is that it wasn't worth the risk. Seems to have worked out.

That's my guess, anyway.
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