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KonAaron Snake 06-02-10 02:49 PM

That PX10 is in my size...I'd be interested because I have no French bikes left. I'd also replace the plastic with Campy NR.

Collin2424 06-02-10 02:49 PM

PX-10, Le Champion, Univega Super Strada, Cannondale CAAD9, Somec Italian thing, Taylor custom, Lejeaune Champ du Monde and last but not least, my girlfriend's Schwinn mountain bike (which I would love to toss into the ocean) lol

-Collin-

khatfull 06-02-10 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by Collin2424 (Post 10902998)
PX-10, Le Champion, Univega Super Strada, Cannondale CAAD9, Somec Italian thing, Taylor custom, Lejeaune Champ du Monde and last but not least, my girlfriend's Schwinn mountain bike (which I would love to toss into the ocean) lol

And before any of you other jokers get any ideas...I get first dibs on the Super Strada if Collin should ever have an aneurysm and want to sell it. You guys can swarm over the rest. Not that I don't like the Taylor either. :)

Collin2424 06-02-10 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake (Post 10902995)
That PX10 is in my size...I'd be interested because I have no French bikes left. I'd also replace the plastic with Campy NR.

How convenient - I don't have any English bikes so I'll trade it for your Raleigh Professional. :)

Kidding. PM me if you want to chat.

-Collin-

desconhecido 06-02-10 02:54 PM

Keep the Moto and contribute the PX-10 to Michael Vandeman's Cat's memorial fund. Wacked out crackpots need love too, you know.

beech333 06-02-10 02:55 PM

Sell the Cannondale to Khatfull. He rides that kind of crap.

See, problem solved. :innocent:

beech333 06-02-10 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by khatfull (Post 10903021)
And before any of you other jokers get any ideas...I get first dibs on the Super Strada if Collin should ever have an aneurysm and want to sell it. You guys can swarm over the rest. Not that I don't like the Taylor either. :)

I'd be all over the Le Champion. I missed out on one that was about 5 miles from me a few months back. I think the seller wanted something like $100-200.

khatfull 06-02-10 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by beech333 (Post 10903038)
Sell the Cannondale to Khatfull. He rides that kind of crap.

See, problem solved. :innocent:

Actually, if you look at my sig, you'll see the new pecking order. I haven't been on the CAAD9 in nearly a month. I do miss my micro-adjust seat post though...need to remedy that on the Tiara somehow.

To be honest, I'm in the throes of deciding how to sell it...put it back to (close to) stock, sell the bike local, and eBay off the upgrade parts or sell it as it is. I shudder to think how much is in that bike and how much C&V fun I could have with those funds! :twitchy:

khatfull 06-02-10 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by beech333 (Post 10903060)
I'd be all over the Le Champion. I missed out on one that was about 5 miles from me a few months back. I think the seller wanted something like $100-200.

Ok, like all the weirdos in my wife's family...do a bunch of us have to go to Collin's apartment put name labels on what we want should Collin meet with an untimely fate? :)

Collin2424 06-02-10 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by beech333 (Post 10903038)
Sell the Cannondale to Khatfull. He rides that kind of crap.

See, problem solved. :innocent:

LOL he really doesn't like that beer can anymore. I've been trying to talk him into keeping it.

-Collin-

Wogster 06-02-10 04:04 PM

I voted for the Pug, only because it needs at least ONE vote, man 19-nothing, starting to look like the way the Leafs play hockey, they are usually on the losing end of that kinda score too...... :D

rumrunn6 06-02-10 06:48 PM

re: "These Frenchies have a way of haunting me"

heartbroken by a Frenchie ...

USAZorro 06-02-10 07:50 PM

I'd keep the PX-10. It reminds me of my Fuji Finest. :)

Seriously, I think I'd keep the PX-10. If it was good enough for Eddy...

cb400bill 06-02-10 08:10 PM

Put the Campy stuff on the PX-10 and then part out the Motorbacon frame and the Simplex parts.

krems81 06-02-10 08:22 PM

Le champ is more unique, and has a nice saddle. Its a pretty bike. It'd probably keep it. The PX-10 is tempting, and with the right rebuild and a better saddle, it could compete, but it has huge rep and is more widely desired while being a bit less new/interesting to look at and ride. Probably get a nicer price on the PX-10, especially if you find a Brooks for it.

Collin2424 06-02-10 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by krems81 (Post 10904555)
Le champ is more unique, and has a nice saddle. Its a pretty bike. It'd probably keep it. The PX-10 is tempting, and with the right rebuild and a better saddle, it could compete, but it has huge rep and is more widely desired while being a bit less new/interesting to look at and ride. Probably get a nicer price on the PX-10, especially if you find a Brooks for it.

Yeah, I didn't realize what the vintage Ideale saddles went for on eBay. Ouch! I guess if I were going to restore the PX-10, I'd just put a B17 on it even though not original. I'm not a total snob when it comes to original parts, especially when it has Simplex stuff. :)

-Collin-

krems81 06-02-10 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by Collin2424 (Post 10904608)
Yeah, I didn't realize what the vintage Ideale saddles went for on eBay. Ouch! I guess if I were going to restore the PX-10, I'd just put a B17 on it even though not original. I'm not a total snob when it comes to original parts, especially when it has Simplex stuff. :)

-Collin-

You could also do a restore on the Peugot just to sell it. Its nice to be able to advertise a bike in restored condition, and it might appeal to a wider audience. If you get a Brooks for it, wrap the bars, overhaul everything, etc., and take beautiful outdoor pictures, you'll maximize the price.

I'd recommend cloth bar wrap, coated with clear shellac, as it gives the most vintage look, which is what you're going for with a bike like that.

RaleighComp 06-02-10 09:14 PM

You need to move to a condo with a nice, secure, underused bike room. There's a Peugeot in our room that hasn't moved in 8 years and is not locked. I think I've narrowed it down to the ex-resident who moved out 5 years ago, as the frame is too tall to accomodate anyone else. The other benefit of a nice, secure bike room is that nobody knows that about 50% of the bikes stored there belong to just two owners. Me and my downstairs neighbor who also has tight lips;-)

zandoval 06-02-10 09:34 PM

Completely disassemble the PX-!0 and sell in pieces - The seat post is worth $48.00 and the Stem is worth $32.00 - The frame will go for at least $75.00 and so on and so on... GOOD LUCK...

dbarnblatt@usa. 06-02-10 11:03 PM

The PX-10 is more comparable to a Motobecane Grand Record (except with Simplex vs. the GR's Campagnolo Nuovo Record... both frames are full 531 and use Nervex Lugs)

The Grand Record is the model below the Le Champion. The Le Champion and the Champion Team are bikes that feel and look beyond what comes from Motobecane's standard line-up.

Go for the Le Champion... much rarer and a better quality bike all around.

bigbossman 06-02-10 11:21 PM

Sell them both, and buy that pristine 58cm Masi before I do.

I'm telling ya - once you go Italian, you'll never go back. Ditch the French stuff and move on - you saw who the girls were talking to on Saturday........ :innocent:

EjustE 06-02-10 11:28 PM

These bikes are different sizes. Keep the one that fits better and add/keep the Campy components on it.

cudak888 06-02-10 11:30 PM

Get rid of the one that isn't the Peugeot, and dump it in a box addressed: "Cudak888's Metal Recyclery, Miami."

-Kurt

bikingshearer 06-03-10 12:05 AM


Originally Posted by Collin2424 (Post 10902681)
We sure did, and it looks like everyone agrees with you :)

Is this one of those instances where I'm going to kick myself in ten years for letting a PX-10 go, though? It's kind of scary.
These Frenchies have a way of haunting me.

-Collin-

Only if you actually try to work on them.

bikingshearer 06-03-10 12:13 AM


Originally Posted by EjustE (Post 10905297)
These bikes are different sizes. Keep the one that fits better and add/keep the Campy components on it.

Campy NR RD's don't just swap over to Simplex dropouts. The dropouts have to be tapped, at least. More trouble than it's worth, IMHO.

And no, PX-10s were not "good enough for Merckx." He rode them for a year or two because his contract demanded it. Later, in the 1969 Tour, he attacked Roger Pingeon, a TdF winner (1967, I believe) and Peugeot team leader on a descent, saying afterwards that he went in part because he remembered how the Pugs had descended. It was not meant as a compliment. I can assure that those bikes Eddy rode in his Faema, Faemino and Molteni years were not repainted and rebadged PX-10's.

On the bright side, Simplex plastic RDs make good, lightweight door stops and paperweights. Much easier to move to where needed than the much heavier Huret stuff.


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