Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

Paramount info...simply add..

Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

Paramount info...simply add..

Old 12-23-18, 04:42 PM
  #226  
PilotFishBob 
My brain hurts!
 
PilotFishBob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Memphis, TN
Posts: 810

Bikes: A ridiculous number

Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 275 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 22 Times in 19 Posts
And a couple more. Hit a limit above, something held up these anyway...



PilotFishBob is offline  
Old 12-23-18, 05:50 PM
  #227  
Kactus 
Senior Member
 
Kactus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Tacoma, WA
Posts: 2,816

Bikes: 1962 Schwinn Paramount P12, 1971 Schwinn Paramount P13-9, 1974 Motobecane Champion Team, 1976 Masi Gran Criterium, 1978 Raleigh Professional

Mentioned: 27 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 330 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 7 Times in 5 Posts
Originally Posted by PilotFishBob View Post
1963 P-13 Deluxe. My final 2018 build that I acquired after it was posted in the "Are you looking for" thread (and at an extremely good price, I offered a little more than the ask to ease my conscience). Like my first Paramount, this too came from a seller in Arizona.

It came as pictured below with no wheels, I borrowed a set from another bike for now and I'll build a set next year. It had a tall Nitto stem (most buried in the tube) with modern handlebar and Universal Mod 68 brakes. I replaced those with period-correct Titan stem, S.Maes/Kint bar and Vainqueur 999 calipers. I replaced the ragged-out Brooks with a Professional I had laying around.

No decals, I had to use aftermarket and reconstructed the period seat tube wrap by cutting and combining a 70's Paramount and mid-60's Continental waterslide, the latter with the older Arnold-Schwinn logo wrap. Not perfect, but close.

This one took an awful lot out of me. I'm completely spent and done with building for awhile. For years I've been looking for a Paramount, my grail bike. Now in less than a year I have two. My grail runneth over, I guess...
As restored:
Fantastic! My '62 came out of Arizona and another person here, Hudson308, has a '61 that came out of Arizona as well. It's either a huge coincidence or Arizona seems to have been a big market for Paramounts in the early 1960's.
__________________
Life... is a state of mind.
Kactus is offline  
Old 12-23-18, 05:57 PM
  #228  
merziac
Senior Member
 
merziac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: PDX
Posts: 4,052

Bikes: Merz x 5 + Specialized Merz Allez x 2, Strawberry/Newlands, Gordon, Fuso/Moulton, Bornstein, Paisley, Paramounts, 3rensho, Moto TC, Raleigh Pro's, Marinoni, 1960 Cinelli SC, 1980 Bianchi SC and more

Mentioned: 94 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1121 Post(s)
Liked 54 Times in 41 Posts
Originally Posted by Kactus View Post
Fantastic! My '62 came out of Arizona and another person here, Hudson308, has a '61 that came out of Arizona as well. It's either a huge coincidence or Arizona seems to have been a big market for Paramounts in the early 1960's.
Probably once they caught on in a place where you can ride year round, they were flying out the door I bet.
merziac is offline  
Old 12-23-18, 06:10 PM
  #229  
Kactus 
Senior Member
 
Kactus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Tacoma, WA
Posts: 2,816

Bikes: 1962 Schwinn Paramount P12, 1971 Schwinn Paramount P13-9, 1974 Motobecane Champion Team, 1976 Masi Gran Criterium, 1978 Raleigh Professional

Mentioned: 27 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 330 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 7 Times in 5 Posts
Originally Posted by merziac View Post
Probably once they caught on in a place where you can ride year round, they were flying out the door I bet.
Year round riding? You mean people can do that some places?
__________________
Life... is a state of mind.
Kactus is offline  
Old 12-23-18, 06:13 PM
  #230  
PilotFishBob 
My brain hurts!
 
PilotFishBob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Memphis, TN
Posts: 810

Bikes: A ridiculous number

Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 275 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 22 Times in 19 Posts
Originally Posted by Kactus View Post
Fantastic! My '62 came out of Arizona and another person here, Hudson308, has a '61 that came out of Arizona as well. It's either a huge coincidence or Arizona seems to have been a big market for Paramounts in the early 1960's.
@merziac's comment makes me wonder. I thought it was quite the coincidence that not only did my 1970 and this 1963 come from Arizona, but both from the Phoenix area. Thinking about it though, Phoenix has the largest concentration of population in AZ by a large margin so I guess it makes sense.
PilotFishBob is offline  
Old 12-23-18, 06:28 PM
  #231  
merziac
Senior Member
 
merziac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: PDX
Posts: 4,052

Bikes: Merz x 5 + Specialized Merz Allez x 2, Strawberry/Newlands, Gordon, Fuso/Moulton, Bornstein, Paisley, Paramounts, 3rensho, Moto TC, Raleigh Pro's, Marinoni, 1960 Cinelli SC, 1980 Bianchi SC and more

Mentioned: 94 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1121 Post(s)
Liked 54 Times in 41 Posts
Originally Posted by Kactus View Post
Year round riding? You mean people can do that some places?
Should have qualified that with "fair weather riding" or something, we ride year round but not the good bikes for me.
merziac is offline  
Old 01-01-19, 11:04 AM
  #232  
Wright Bros
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 84

Bikes: '92 Schwinn Paramount PDG 2, '92 Trek 930 & '98 920

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 22 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
This is the second Asian Paramount I've had, found it 3 yrs ago in as new condition. I love the fancy lugs and the ride is great but stiff.

Wright Bros is offline  
Old 01-01-19, 12:14 PM
  #233  
Fahrenheit531 
50th Anniversary Edition
 
Fahrenheit531's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 3,458

Bikes: Schwinn Paramount ('71) and Volare ('78); Raleigh Competition GS ('79)

Mentioned: 24 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 547 Post(s)
Liked 59 Times in 34 Posts
Originally Posted by PilotFishBob View Post
@merziac's comment makes me wonder. I thought it was quite the coincidence that not only did my 1970 and this 1963 come from Arizona, but both from the Phoenix area. Thinking about it though, Phoenix has the largest concentration of population in AZ by a large margin so I guess it makes sense.
Probably not a case where lots more Paramounts were sold per capita (in either Phoenix or Arizona as a whole). Instead I'd suggest our climate allowed for lots more rust-free survivors than many areas.
__________________
A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera
Fahrenheit531 is offline  
Old 01-06-19, 11:27 AM
  #234  
Steve Whitlatch 
Senior Member
 
Steve Whitlatch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Chicago area
Posts: 3,628
Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 519 Post(s)
Liked 8 Times in 4 Posts
__________________
My bikes: 1970`s Roberts - 1981 Miyata 912 - 1980`s Ocshner (Chrome) - 1987 Schwinn Circuit - 1987 Schwinn Prologue - 1992 Schwinn Crosspoint - 1999 Schwinn Circuit - 2014 Cannondale Super Six EVO
Steve Whitlatch is offline  
Old 01-06-19, 03:34 PM
  #235  
3speedslow
Senior Member
 
3speedslow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Jacksonville, NC
Posts: 7,273

Bikes: A few

Mentioned: 92 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1241 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 25 Times in 22 Posts
Cool dude!
3speedslow is offline  
Old 01-06-19, 10:32 PM
  #236  
crank_addict
Senior Member
 
crank_addict's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 6,421
Mentioned: 80 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1064 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 18 Times in 13 Posts
1941, the bike speed record passed the 100-mph milestone when Alfred Letourneur riding a Schwinn Paramount reached 108.92 mph while slipstreaming behind a racing car on Highway 99 near Bakersfield California.

crank_addict is offline  
Old 01-07-19, 05:29 AM
  #237  
pastorbobnlnh 
Freewheel Medic
 
pastorbobnlnh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Ascending or Descending the NH Mountains NW of Concord!
Posts: 11,182

Bikes: Snazzy* Schwinns, Classy Cannondales, & a Lonely '83 Santana Tandem (* Ed.)

Mentioned: 84 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 464 Post(s)
Liked 15 Times in 9 Posts
Don't you wonder how much that chainring weighed? Had to be quite heavy since he's running at least 40 hole hubs/rims. Gotta carry that extra weight safely!
__________________
Bob
Dreaming about riding in NH's summertime!

Visit my websites:
FreeWheelSpa.com orpastorbobnlnh.com
pastorbobnlnh is offline  
Old 01-07-19, 01:12 PM
  #238  
Salubrious
Senior Member
 
Salubrious's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,247
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 161 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
My Paramount is a touring model, 1964 IIRC. I rescued it as a frameset off CL. With it I got the Campy headset and bottom bracket hardware. From there I was a bit on my own; built up a set of wheels using vintage Weinmann with Campy hubs. The paint wasn't perfect but I was loathe to repaint as the graphics are in good condition.

I figured the stem and bars to be GB; I have a set of carved GB bars for the task, but being a bit of a GB fan I set it up with GB Courier 66 brakes which are a lot more powerful then the Weinmanns and they look nicer too. The other deviations from stock kit are the Lyotard pedals and the Campy first-gen Rally. I found a 41 tooth inner chainring for the front and a 14-34 freewheel for the rear, so the gears are pretty nice.

This is one of the more comfortable bikes I've owned, so when I had my custom 953 frame built (Dave Anderson) it essentially used the same geometry.

I had this bike on display at the Dairyland Dare in 2017 but wussed out on actually riding it for the race- my Anderson is set up with a Rohloff which is a bit more gears.
Salubrious is offline  
Old 01-07-19, 01:18 PM
  #239  
crank_addict
Senior Member
 
crank_addict's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 6,421
Mentioned: 80 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1064 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 18 Times in 13 Posts
Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh View Post
Don't you wonder how much that chainring weighed? Had to be quite heavy since he's running at least 40 hole hubs/rims. Gotta carry that extra weight safely!
The shop still exist in Chicago. Interesting noting the above photograph to this display.
https://wastyn.com/about-us

crank_addict is offline  
Old 01-07-19, 01:31 PM
  #240  
Kactus 
Senior Member
 
Kactus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Tacoma, WA
Posts: 2,816

Bikes: 1962 Schwinn Paramount P12, 1971 Schwinn Paramount P13-9, 1974 Motobecane Champion Team, 1976 Masi Gran Criterium, 1978 Raleigh Professional

Mentioned: 27 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 330 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 7 Times in 5 Posts
Originally Posted by Salubrious View Post
I figured the stem and bars to be GB; I have a set of carved GB bars for the task, but being a bit of a GB fan I set it up with GB Courier 66 brakes which are a lot more powerful then the Weinmanns and they look nicer too.
In '64 I believe they still used Titan stems and M.Kint bars. The GB's are pretty close though and a good (and easier to find) alternative; I used them on my '62 until I found a nice Titan stem and M.Kint bars for a reasonable price.
__________________
Life... is a state of mind.
Kactus is offline  
Old 01-07-19, 03:28 PM
  #241  
RiddleOfSteel
Lugged, Dura-Ace Glory
 
RiddleOfSteel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 2,521

Bikes: '87 Schwinn Prologue - '74 Schwinn Paramount P15 - '8X Davidson Impulse - '88 Land Shark Road Shark - '92 Specialized Epic Carbon - '15 Cannondale CAAD10 Disc - '81 Trek 710 - '92? Bushnell Track Bike

Mentioned: 153 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 797 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 29 Times in 25 Posts
@PilotFishBob that is simply stunning! Perfect!
RiddleOfSteel is offline  
Old 01-07-19, 06:38 PM
  #242  
PilotFishBob 
My brain hurts!
 
PilotFishBob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Memphis, TN
Posts: 810

Bikes: A ridiculous number

Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 275 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 22 Times in 19 Posts
Originally Posted by RiddleOfSteel View Post
@PilotFishBob that is simply stunning! Perfect!
Thanks! I beat myself up a bit with it - but worth it... And I recently stumbled across one more thing to make it even better, a set of early gen Weinmann QR levers, OE on the '63/64 P-13 Deluxe from what I've seen in researching - fairly rare so I jumped on them. I'm enjoying the bike as is for now so I'll put those on later when my mojo (and my slush fund) recovers and I begin building the wheelset for it.

PilotFishBob is offline  
Old 04-20-19, 11:15 PM
  #243  
trainman999
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 214

Bikes: 83 Schwinn Superior, 86 Paramount,86 Madison,87 Cimeron,86 Nishiki Linear

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 85 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
on the ebay sold listings is a rare Paramount It's a 66 ladys model with Seria legere lugs. Ebay seems to think you should be looking at things still for sale so you will have to click on original listing https://www.ebay.com/itm/1966-Schwin...orig_cvip=true
trainman999 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Smallguy
Mountain Biking
18
09-02-10 03:59 PM
HardyWeinberg
Commuting
21
02-25-09 11:23 AM
substructure
Commuting
16
09-13-07 11:48 AM
haddersus
Introductions
1
12-29-04 09:49 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.