Quick question about MAFAC brakes
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Quick question about MAFAC brakes
Was the "Competition" higher in the pecking order than the "Racer"? (I am talking 60s and 70s for reference).
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I believe they were similar, but at different times. The competition replaced the Racer.
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/mafac.html
There's some more info for you to chew on.
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/mafac.html
There's some more info for you to chew on.
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I believe they were similar, but at different times. The competition replaced the Racer.
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/mafac.html
There's some more info for you to chew on.
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/mafac.html
There's some more info for you to chew on.
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Yes, the 70s Competition was a step above the Racer: slightly nicer/sleeker finish/design, different straddle wire, same pads/shoes I think. Came on the better French bikes, PX10, top Merciers, can't remember what else. The Racer was the basic Mafac brake came on everything from the bottom to the top. I used both versions, though not lately: honestly I don't think there's much performance difference. The Competition just looked nicer.
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When I was looking at cyclespeugeot.com, I checked the catalogs that had specifications, and in '73 and '74, even the PX10 had Racers. I made the ASSumption that Sheldon was right in his chronology based on that. Guess I was wrong. Sorry !
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Early "Competition" has different straddle cable (with relieve grip at one end) and is generally a bit nicer/slimmer than "Racer".
Main difference is shorter reach.
Extract from Jan Heine-article from "Bicycle Quarterly" Winter 2008 ("Slow down"):
"...in 1970, Mafac introduced the "Competition" (...) with a shorter reach, a narrower profile and better finish to counter the popularity of Campagnolos high-end side pull brakes. In 1973, the "2000" followed, offering the same high-end finish as the "Competition" with the longer reach of the "Racer".
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Hmmm, I have a set of CLD racers as well as some Mafac racers and the CLD seem to be much higher quality. I don't see much about these. I now wonder if what I think is a CLD is actually Mafac racer II ?
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(CLB did make a "Racer" model apparently patterned after Mafac's.)
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Competitions have brass bushings at the arm pivots where Racers have plastic.
My '74 PX10LE came with Competitions. The '74 PX10E came with Racers and was a few dollars cheaper.
I don't believe there is any significant difference in reach, but you can check here:
https://www.velo-pages.com/main.php?g...geViewsIndex=1
My '74 PX10LE came with Competitions. The '74 PX10E came with Racers and was a few dollars cheaper.
I don't believe there is any significant difference in reach, but you can check here:
https://www.velo-pages.com/main.php?g...geViewsIndex=1
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Competitions have brass bushings at the arm pivots where Racers have plastic.
My '74 PX10LE came with Competitions. The '74 PX10E came with Racers and was a few dollars cheaper.
I don't believe there is any significant difference in reach, but you can check here:
https://www.velo-pages.com/main.php?g...geViewsIndex=1
My '74 PX10LE came with Competitions. The '74 PX10E came with Racers and was a few dollars cheaper.
I don't believe there is any significant difference in reach, but you can check here:
https://www.velo-pages.com/main.php?g...geViewsIndex=1
(seen there in an unfortunate 700 tubular to 27 clicher conversion on my TdF by a PO, thus the move of the shoes all the way up.) Did your TdF come with Competition or Racer brakes?
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I have Competitions on my Gitane TdF. I am edgy about the 35+ year old bridge wires and have been thinking about switching to some Competitions that I have.
I sure wish someone made those bridge wires.....
I sure wish someone made those bridge wires.....
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The "Dural Forge" stamped MAFACs were always called "Racer" officially, even if the imprinting read "Dural Forge". This imprinting eventually changed into "Racer".
https://www.classicrendezvous.com/Fra...acer-Tiger.htm
https://mysite.verizon.net/imagelib/s...title=Page%208
Early versions of the "D.F." used brass bushings, later "D.F." (until ca. late 1960s) still used brass bushes covered from the outside by red plastic washers under pivot bolt, visually identical to the later "Racer"-labelled ones.
These later (non-"D.F.") "Racers" used humbler red plastic bushings with integral (visible red) washers.
Sorry for causing confusion.
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Was there a better Mafac brake caliper than the "Competition"?
Also, for what it is worth, Competitions almost always sell for considerably more on Ebay, than do Racers.
I have never seen a Peugeot UO8, or similar level French bicycle, issued with Mafac "Competition" brake calipers. The only bikes I have found fitted with the Competitions was a Peugeot PX10s and a couple of Gitane Professionals. Never found any other really high end French bikes except my early eighties Vitus 979 (what a nice bike) and it was full Mavic SSC.
So, in my opinion, yes, the Competition is a more sought after brake caliper.
Also, for what it is worth, Competitions almost always sell for considerably more on Ebay, than do Racers.
I have never seen a Peugeot UO8, or similar level French bicycle, issued with Mafac "Competition" brake calipers. The only bikes I have found fitted with the Competitions was a Peugeot PX10s and a couple of Gitane Professionals. Never found any other really high end French bikes except my early eighties Vitus 979 (what a nice bike) and it was full Mavic SSC.
So, in my opinion, yes, the Competition is a more sought after brake caliper.
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A while back somebody posted a very simple and effective way to make Competition straddle wires. I don't remember the technique (don't have those brakes) but look around on the C&V forum a bit.
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