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Mystery bike ID...help please!

Old 07-06-10, 11:22 AM
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High end mystery bike ID...help please!

I just inherited a bike my father reportedly purchased new in 1972 from his local bike shop in Oklahoma. No decals, no head badge, no stampings on bottom bracket; it looks like he may have spray painted it . I havenít checked whether the bb has French or Italian threads. Pictures will be posted soon, but I thought this info would get the juices flowing:
Bocama Professional lugs
Campagnolo dropouts
Full chrome fork with flat crown
Brooks Team Professional saddle
Campagnolo 1044 Record seatpost
Cinelli 66 Campione del Mondo bar
Cinelli stem
Suntour 3090 bar end shifters
Simplex top tube cable housing guides
MAFAC Course 121 Professional levers
MAFAC Competition brakes
Campagnolo Nuovo Record front derailleur
Campagnolo Nuovo Record rear derailleur
Campagnolo Strada, Nuovo Record 170 mm double crankset
Campagnolo 1037 Nuovo Record pedals
Campagnolo 1046 Record bottom bracket
Campagnolo 1035 Record Strada High Flange hubs (36 h)
Mavic Montlery Championnat du Monde tubular alloy rims

I'll take some frame measurements soon. Any suggestions for specific components/areas to capture in photographs (seat stay cluster, etc.)? This bike means a lot to me, and I've tried to ID it myself, but I am at a loss. The Bocama lugs, full chrome fork, Campagnolo drivetrain with MAFAC brakes, etc. are confounding me. Thanks a lot!
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Old 07-06-10, 11:37 AM
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I'd say my knowledge is next to zero (on this particular subject at least) but all I can say is wanna switch dads?
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Old 07-06-10, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by sauze
I'd say my knowledge is next to zero (on this particular subject at least) but all I can say is wanna switch dads?
Ha!
Well, he kicked the bucket 3.5 years ago...I'd surely ask him about this sweet machine if he was still around!
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the real clue is that brake cable arch on the back of the seat-stays: very much a Gitane feature, and with the Campy DOs and ends it would be a Super Corsa. The forkblades look very much like 531, and the staycaps are right for a Gitane, too. If it isn't FR threaded then I'll be a monkey's uncle.
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If the adjustable cup reads "35x1" you've definately got yourself a Gitane Super Corsa. Love the stitched-leather bar wrap!
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I can see where you're going with the seat stay brake arch, I see that on Super Corsas of the era. But everything I've read (granted, my knowledge is limited) suggests that Super Corsas used Prugnat lugs, not Bocama.

I'll take a look at the adjustable cup text soon.

And yes, I love that leather bar wrap! One of my favorite features.

Thanks for the input.
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It looks like a Gitane, but I've never seen a Super Corsa with a brake bridge. Every Super Corsa that I've ever seen has had all Campy NR components, including the sidepull brakes. I have to admit that I haven't seen more than a half dozen of them, though. I don't remember seeing Prugnat lugs on any Gitane.

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I'd put my money on it being a Gitane Supercorsa or upgraded Tour de France. All of the details (lugs, crown, seatstays and rear brake stop) match the two Tours de France that I owned back in the 70's. Wish I still had one...

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Originally Posted by Grand Bois
It looks like a Gitane, but I've never seen a Super Corsa with a brake bridge. Every Super Corsa that I've ever seen has had all Campy NR components, including the sidepull brakes. I have to admit that I haven't seen more than a half dozen of them, though. I don't remember seeing Prugnat lugs on any Gitane.
From what I can tell reading the catalogs on Gitaneusa.com and elsewhere, the high-end models that used Campy ends (Super Corsa in the US, plus others for the FR market) offered Campy brakes as an option. So there are models that had both Mafac CP brakes and the brake arch but with Campy drivetrain and ends.
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Yes, I've seen photos of some Super Corsas with a brake bridge identical to my bike's. It was supplied with Super Corsas running MAFAC centerpull brakes, as is the case here. The Super Corsas with Campy sidepulls didn't have the brake bridge.

This is great, please keep the feedback coming!
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There were a lot of variations in Gitanes. My TdF has Campy fork ends and no brake bridge.

It's safe to say that you have a high end Gitane there, and it's probably a Super Corsa. I don't think they started using Mafac Competitions until about 1973. That's what you have. I like them better than Racers, but the bridge wires are virtually unobtainable. I've torn my shop apart trying to find one that I misplaced.
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