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Old 07-12-10, 03:30 PM
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New Athena Group set

What do you guys think of the newer Athena group? The Campy website shows it available with a silver crankset & NEW to me silver brifters. It would look great on a classic steel bike. It really has me thinking.......
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Don't think anyone has the silver Ergo's yet, but I have 2009 Centaur on a couple of bikes, like it just fine.
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I've been eying the Athena group for a few weeks, but was bummed about the carbon brake levers...that seemed to be a problem for a lot of people. Where did you hear/see about a silver option???

**Edit...hot off the presses...looks like the announcement was made by Campy today

https://www.campagnolo.com/jsp/en/pho...lleryid_16.jsp

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I am running 9 speed D/A on my only modern-ish bike. That bike is living a long & hard life thanks to me I really like the idea of trying Campy for my next machine. I do find it a little unsettling Campy does not make hubs for each group.
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another article about all Campy changes...that's it, Athena is going on my next bike.

https://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/...groupsets.html
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Originally Posted by embankmentlb View Post
I am running 9 speed D/A on my only modern-ish bike. That bike is living a long & hard life thanks to me I really like the idea of trying Campy for my next machine. I do find it a little unsettling Campy does not make hubs for each group.
they used to but its just not cost effective any more. everyone wants prebuilt wheels. i jumped on a set of veloce 10/11 speed hubs this spring. they are IDENTICAL to the 80s-90s campagnolo chorus hubs but have a 10/11 speed body.

if i were building a bike with athena i would use white industries hubs

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Good call...that's my plan.

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they used to but its just not cost effective any more. everyone wants prebuilt wheels. i jumped on a set of veloce 10/11 speed hubs this spring. they are IDENTICAL to the 80s-90s campagnolo chorus hubs but have a 10/11 speed body.

if i were building a bike with athena i would use white industries hubs

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OK, Times 3
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Campy cassettes are backwards compatible, or whatever it's called. Except for the relatively rare Record Titanium stuff.

In other words any used or NOS 9/10 speed hubs on eBay will work with 11 speed cassettes. Not the case for 8 speed, though!

The finest wheels for a vintage look, IMO, are the silver Record hubs, with the classic oil hole and cover. Here's my 10 speed rear hub:

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OK, Times 3
i figured i could sell you.

i would give anything to make a living doing custom bike builds...

edit: and refurbishing old rides.
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A friend of mine has Athena-11 on his classic Basso. Looks great. I think it's the perfect group if you want new with that classic silver look.
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Originally Posted by jan nikolajsen View Post
Campy cassettes are backwards compatible, or whatever it's called. Except for the relatively rare Record Titanium stuff.

In other words any used or NOS 9/10 speed hubs on eBay will work with 11 speed cassettes. Not the case for 8 speed, though!

The finest wheels for a vintage look, IMO, are the silver Record hubs, with the classic oil hole and cover. Here's my 10 speed rear hub:

i wanted those hubs, but i got my veloce ones attached to ambrosio rims for $100 with about 50 miles on them.

for what its worth, campagnolo does/did make an 8spd cassette that fits on a 9/10/11 speed hub and some of the 8 speed hubs could be upgraded to 9/10/11 speed cassette bodies (i know some shamals could be)
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Now I need to find the money... and just the right frame. thirdgenbird, what frames do you recommend?
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The Campag 11-speed series of RD's look about as C&V as a wart on a carbon frame. They look positively bloated:



Heck, SRAM's Rival would look more C&V with the labels polished off of it - reminds me a lot of Suntour's mid-1980's RD's:



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My question is why did Campagnolo ressurect the name of a group that shifted like total crap. I had the original Athena group, it was not good.
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Ew! They made this thing to shave 20 grams off of the previous year, not worth it. Just eat less burgers and drink less beer and you won't have to ride this haha.
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The Athena 11 Speed alloy group is on sale now at PBK for 630 euros which is approximately $790 US

https://www.probikekit.com/display.php?code=L0048
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Originally Posted by 5cagm View Post
The Athena 11 Speed alloy group is on sale now at PBK for 630 euros which is approximately $790 US

https://www.probikekit.com/display.php?code=L0048
Those are not the new silver Ergo's. The silver Ergo's are the 2011 model, not yet available.
"AluCarbon lever: Carbon fibre with aluminium core for long-term reliability, stiffness, mechanical resistance and corrosion resistance, a long life cycle, and an aggressive racing look"
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Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
Heck, SRAM's Rival would look more C&V with the labels polished off of it - reminds me a lot of Suntour's mid-1980's RD's:



-Kurt
Yeah, but isn't that a couple of years old model?
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Originally Posted by Old Fat Guy View Post
Those are not the new silver Ergo's. The silver Ergo's are the 2011 model, not yet available.
"AluCarbon lever: Carbon fibre with aluminium core for long-term reliability, stiffness, mechanical resistance and corrosion resistance, a long life cycle, and an aggressive racing look"
Ooops my bad
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Originally Posted by 5cagm View Post
Ew! They made this thing to shave 20 grams off of the previous year, not worth it. Just eat less burgers and drink less beer and you won't have to ride this haha.
That looks better than the silver. At least you can't make out the corners on it.

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Originally Posted by thirdgenbird View Post
they used to but its just not cost effective any more. everyone wants prebuilt wheels. i jumped on a set of veloce 10/11 speed hubs this spring. they are IDENTICAL to the 80s-90s campagnolo chorus hubs but have a 10/11 speed body.

if i were building a bike with athena i would use white industries hubs

I am not sure that the WI hubs are compatible with 11 speed, I recall that there were issues.

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Originally Posted by embankmentlb View Post
Now I need to find the money... and just the right frame. thirdgenbird, what frames do you recommend?
how much do you want to spend?

tommasini techno, cinelli supercorsa, bianchi dolomiti (which comes with 2010 athena), a waterford, or the gios compact pro (its NOT compact geometry)


if you are on a budget, almost any 70s- early 90s butted and lugged steel frame will give you classic looks and a smooth ride.

here is my 10spd bike built on a cheaper tange 1000 frame:
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Was looking at the new SR rear d and it's 155 gram weight... didn't Huret make a derailleur that was even lighter some 40 years ago without carbon or titanium ?



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WI offers an 11-speed Campy version for their rear cassette. I'm assuming it's compatible.

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I am not sure that the WI hubs are compatible with 11 speed, I recall that there were issues.

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