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1985 Raleigh USA Team Professional Replica / 555 (of course, with PICS!)

Old 07-12-10, 06:41 PM
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1985 Raleigh USA Team Professional Replica / 555 (of course, with PICS!)

Without further ado...

Before:





After (and not quite done...):





^Now you see why I call it a 555^









Ignore the masking tape holding the bar tape on... I'm out of black electrical tape

It's got a mish-mash of parts on her:
Suntour Superbe Pro shifters, rear derailleur & hubs;
Suntour Sprint Crank
Shimano 600EX front derailleur, BB & headset
MKS Sylvan pedals
SR seatpost
Vetta saddle
ITM bar & stem
Mavic MA2 rims
Torelli Torino tires
Dia Compe Royal Gran Compe brakeset

I haven't ridden it for even a shakedown yet. That will be tomorrow.

She sure is pretty, though!

I got this from a friend of mine that said he bought the frameset in late '85 or early '86, and hadn't ridden it since mid '86. It originally had a complete 600EX (not Arabesque) gruppo with Biopace rings, but the crank arms are 175mm (a bit long for a smaller frame and me), so I took that off and then started swapping away... hence the mish-mash.

Oh, I traded him a gun for it. I'm to the point in my life where I don't think I'll need a small arsenal anymore, and would rather have bikes!
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Good lookin' bike you got there. Nice job!
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Nice.

Did you throw away the old bar tape? I thought it looked great.
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That is one bike I really want. There was someone that had a F/F for sale on here awhile ago.... (I think it was stars and stripes paint thought) Great looking bike!
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Originally Posted by USAZorro
Nice.

Did you throw away the old bar tape? I thought it looked great.
Sure did. It was nasty. It had some sort of sticky gunk on it. I've scrubbed the brake hoods and got the blackness off of them, but they're still a bit tacky to the touch. Feels weird.

I still might get some yellow or white Benotto Cello tape for it.

Oh! This bike was like a 1985 time capsule! Almost no wear and tear on it at all, and it came with the ORIGINAL Raleigh water bottle. Not in bad shape, either... Remember those little teeny mouths that water bottle used to have? I'd forgotten how small they were.

Also, I've never seen these frames in person before. I'd always thought they were red and dark blue, but it is certainly black!
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Check your serial. Decals are the '83-5 variety. '86 looked slightly different.

Funny thing is, the serial number you mention in the other thread doesn't correlate with the typical serials I'd expect to see on these.

P.S.: The "twin" came over today for another visit. Grabbed a better shot of it for you. Mike says he'll soon do it up with black vinyl bar tape:



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Kurt,
What's on that one? DA7400?

I know what you mean about the serial #. From all the research and seeing others, I wasn't expecting a # with just #'s. But that's what it is...

What is different about the decals? I'm not picking up the nuances here...
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Originally Posted by frpax
Kurt,
What's on that one? DA7400?
Dura-Ace 7400 crankset, the rest is 6200-series Shimano 600 (RD-6208, FD-6207, BR-6208's), with black anodized Aero Gran Compe brake levers.

He does need a replacement set of SL-6208 shifters though - the original RH was chewed up.

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What is different about the decals? I'm not picking up the nuances here...
The decals on the '86s (don't worry, there hasn't been a photo of one here yet) are a bit chunkier, and I think they might have a fade pattern on them as well. Best photo I have is of an '86 Prestige, which copied the Pro's color layout for that year, though with red/maroon instead of red/black:



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I remember the '86s going to the fade logos... pretty much across the board.

I'm fairly sure this is an '85, with an outside chance that it's an '84.
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here's mine as a ss.
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Your picture is quite small, but that definitely looks post-1985. '86? '87? I know that they went to a red-to-yellow fade shortly after.

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Originally Posted by bluenote157
here's mine as a ss.
Can you post it larger (in "Go Advanced")?
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I don't mean to hijack, but this seems like a good place to ask...



Does anyone know where I could get a seat binder bolt for this bike? I haven't been able to find one that fits.

Did anyone ever figure out what the 555 tubing actually was? This Grand Prix is 555sl.
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Originally Posted by Lame Thrower
Did anyone ever figure out what the 555 tubing actually was? This Grand Prix is 555sl.
Only the 555RSL, which is Reynolds 531.

555SL and 555T are still in question - someone ought to keep an eye on the fixie fellows the next time a 555SL frame gets stripped of its paint; some identifying markings might come of it.

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From what I've read, 555SL & 555T are generally considered to not be Reynolds tubing. Most likely Tange or Ishiwata. Still very good tubing, though.
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Originally Posted by frpax
From what I've read, 555SL & 555T are generally considered to not be Reynolds tubing. Most likely Tange or Ishiwata. Still very good tubing, though.
The only thing I know for a fact is that 555SL is some form of seamed tubing. 555T, probably the same, but I don't own the '84 Alyeska that had it (hence, I can't peer in the seattube to find out).

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Originally Posted by cudak888
The only thing I know for a fact is that 555SL is some form of seamed tubing. 555T, probably the same, but I don't own the '84 Alyeska that had it (hence, I can't peer in the seattube to find out).

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Hmmm very interesting. If it is Tange I suppose the seamed tubing could be 900?
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It's possible that 555SL is one tubing type, and Raleigh was obscuring the fact that it came from Asia. I think it's also possible that Raleigh's invented 555SL designation allowed them to source tubing from multiple sources, depending on cost and convenience, without having to worry about a changing array of tubing decals that would have to be matched to specific models and levels of frame. Just a hunch.
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Originally Posted by Picchio Special
I think it's also possible that Raleigh's invented 555SL designation allowed them to source tubing from multiple sources, depending on cost and convenience, without having to worry about a changing array of tubing decals that would have to be matched to specific models and levels of frame. Just a hunch.
Could be, but they all had to be double-butted cro-mo of one kind or another. 5cagm has a point about Tange 900. Hell, it might even be True-Temper 4130 for all we know; seeing that Schwinn was putting it on all of their lugged frames around this era.

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Originally Posted by USAZorro
Nice.

Did you throw away the old bar tape? I thought it looked great.
+1, and the leather saddle looked pretty ****in' sweet too.
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Originally Posted by cudak888
Could be, but they all had to be double-butted cro-mo of one kind or another.
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Right - that's what I was getting at - a fair number of options in that general category of tubing.
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Bike looks dam good. I have an 85 Competition, I think that is a couple levels lower than the Team Professional. My Competition has 555 too. and it rides sweet. If the Team Pro rides better, it has got to be a sweet ride, and a handsome one too..

Note to Kurt, my Competition is looking better and better everyday. Just added a red and white Fizik saddle along with the arrest me red bartape, and I am in 12 speed heaven!!!
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Originally Posted by ilikebikes
+1, and the leather saddle looked pretty ****in' sweet too.
That old Brooks is in sad shape. It's gonna take a whole jar of Hide Food to bring it back to something resembling life! That said, the leather isn't torn anywhere. Just dry as a bone. I may have to soak the thing in oil for a week or so!
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