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unworthy1 07-25-10 08:12 PM

spoke end markings database
 
while looking for info to ID spokes on an old French wheel, I came across this list in the CR archives:

Spoke Head Markings
Mark Brand Country Comment
DT DT Swiss Switzerland
U Union Germany
R (Reversed) Redaelli Italy
A Alpina Italy
Y Prym Germany
E Trois Etoiles France Robergel
Crescent Robergel France
Clover Berg-Union Switzerland
Star Stella Italy
W Wolber?
W Wheelsmith USA Since 1984 probably made by Asahi
P Performance probably made by Asahi
Three stars Trois Etoiles France Robergel
Three dots
Cross (+) Torrington USA (Connecticut)
A Asahi Japan
H Hoshi Japan
SAP Sapim Belgium stamped on the elbow
T (in shield) Torrington USA

I think John Hurley (who complied it) would not mind it being shared with our crowd :thumb:

bikemore 11-10-12 01:58 PM

6 "S: around the edge. 1.8mm Trois Etoiles France Robergel. Not all the S visible because they are cut by the slot.

That is the nipples, not the spokes. But useful to know if you have a box of random nipples and off course the French nipples have a different
threading.

One of these days I will do a set of pictures of nipples to match this page:
http://www.mrrabbit.net/docs/spokeheads/main.html

Shimagnolo 11-10-12 01:59 PM

http://www.mrrabbit.net/docs/spokeheads/main.html

bikemore 11-11-12 11:50 AM

I forgot I got started on this:

http://www.velobase.com/ViewComponen...m=126&AbsPos=2

ColonelJLloyd 11-11-12 12:05 PM

These are Stella?

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8335/8...da74394d_b.jpg

puchfinnland 11-11-12 12:18 PM

oh no, not another thing to worry about when restoring a bicycle
whats next!!!!!:cry:

Chombi 11-11-12 01:34 PM

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44...DSC02255-1.jpg
Dang!, it's so small, I can't see it!!:twitchy:.......:D

Chombi

gaucho777 11-13-12 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by puchfinnland (Post 14937192)
oh no, not another thing to worry about when restoring a bicycle
whats next!!!!!:cry:

Add spoke threading to the list of possible concerns. Some older French spokes won't work with standard nipples.

rootboy 11-13-12 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd (Post 14937176)

Can't see those too clearly Colonel but, nope. Stella spokes have a raised five pointed star with a raised ouline. Those look like something else. If you check Hurley's spoke data base he's got a lot of "unknown"s shown too. Yours appear to be the same as the fifth "unknown" down on the list.

Shimagnolo 11-13-12 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by bikemore (Post 14935012)
But useful to know if you have a box of random nipples and off course the French nipples have a different threading.

"The French don't copy anyone, and no one copies the French"
-- Click & Clack, talking about the oddities of French automotive engineering


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