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10speedterror 08-06-12 07:00 PM

how bout this mystery machine! drilled stay caps reynolds stamped fork crown brake cable guide on the bottom of the top tube had a racing number holder at one point single bolt seat post binder no chain stay bridge currently undergoing a 650 conversion excuse the paint job!
http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/...r/249_1664.jpg
http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/...r/249_1665.jpg
http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/...r/249_1666.jpg
http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/...r/249_1667.jpg
http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/...r/249_1668.jpg
and how bout a motobecane profil (although not mine anymore!)
http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/...r/DSC_0359.jpg
http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/...r/DSC_0362.jpg
http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/...r/DSC_0364.jpg
http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/...r/DSC_0377.jpg
http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/...r/DSC_0374.jpg
wish i had some photos of my friend bills collection! some truly amazing items in there!

calstar 08-06-12 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by gaucho777 (Post 14574218)
@calstar: Whoa, quite the gear range on the Desiree! I wonder if that is a Spence Wolf mod on the rear derailleur. It looks similar to the mod shown HERE (yet slightly different). The "as found" pictures look better than some "restored" photos I've seen. Cool bike!

P.s. UCSB Gauchos! ;)

No, Robert Alexander mods predate Spence. He imported the frames and components from different vendors in Europe(he raced in Europe in the 50s) and built the Desiree(his registered trademark/name) with his his modified Campy rd and fd. A friend, Wilson, has a Wolf modified rd, not nearly as well done as Alexander's when compared side by side(note the brass rivets in the arm). Desiree's were assembled and sold only in Santa Barbara, Ca, from the mid to late 50s untill the mid 60s, he was a one man operation, far ahead of his time in many aspects of his life, quite a guy. As for the gear range, this one was the least common that he sold(which makes it that much more of lucky find), a 60-50-26, he called it mountain gearing. All the Desiree's had "mountain gears" usually with a 52-48-26 or close to it.

"Is that derailleur extension spring loaded? does it work well?"

The Gran Sport had a relatively weak spring, certainly not close to being able to wrap that amount of chain. To make it work he used an external spring connected from the chain stay bridge to the rd, connecting the spriing at both ends with a formed piece of ss spoke. As far as working well goes I'll have to wait and see untill after its finished, but IIRC the one I bought in 1959 as a kid worked fine(my Desiree was the same size and color, pretty cosmically cool!!)

Brian









delcrossv 08-06-12 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by calstar (Post 14574529)
No, Robert Alexander mods predate Spence. He imported the frames and components from different vendors in Europe(he raced in Europe in the 50s) and built the Desiree(his registered trademark/name) with his his modified Campy rd and fd. A friend, Wilson, has a Wolf modified rd, not nearly as well done as Alexander's when compared side by side(note the brass rivets in the arm). Desiree's were assembled and sold only in Santa Barbara, Ca, from the mid to late 50s untill the mid 60s, he was a one man operation, far ahead of his time in many aspects of his life, quite a guy. As for the gear range, this one was the least common that he sold(which makes it that much more of lucky find), a 60-50-26, he called it mountain gearing. All the Desiree's had "mountain gears" usually with a 52-48-26 or close to it.

"Is that derailleur extension spring loaded? does it work well?"

The Gran Sport had a relatively weak spring, certainly not close to being able to wrap that amount of chain. To make it work he used an external spring connected to the chain stay bridge to the rd, connecting the spriing at both ends with a formed piece of ss spoke. As far as working well goes I'll have to wait and see untill after its finished, but IIRC the one I bought in 1959 as a kid worked fine(my Desiree was the same size and color, pretty cosmically cool!!)

Brian









Got it- wondered what that was below the chainstay in the big pic. Very cool, thanks for showing it!

frantik 08-06-12 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by gaucho777 (Post 14573499)

love that paint job :D pretty sure the art director from centurion went to Park Pre

delcrossv 08-06-12 08:01 PM

One last Q Calstar, how did he arrange for a climb from a 26 to a 50 tooth chainring in front? Can't tell from the pic.
Thx!- this is the most interesting engineering I've seen in a long time.

calstar 08-06-12 09:56 PM

chain wrap spring, fd mod
 
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Originally Posted by delcrossv (Post 14574582)
One last Q Calstar, how did he arrange for a climb from a 26 to a 50 tooth chainring in front? Can't tell from the pic.
Thx!- this is the most interesting engineering I've seen in a long time.

He fabricated his own fd cage and replaced the original. This pic also shows the spring used to wrap the chain. At some point I'll post detailed pics of the bike, derailleur mods, etc. when I complete the work(I hope sooner rather than later, projects seem to accumulate faster than I can finish them).

thanks for the interest,

Brian

delcrossv 08-07-12 08:39 AM

Very cool, Looking forward to seeing more when you're done. Great find! This would be the ringer bike for the "Dirty Dozen" hillclimb in Pittsburgh.

Chombi 08-07-12 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by 10speedterror (Post 14574367)

My younger brother had one of those Moto Profils in the 80's.
Althoug it looked very nice for its price, it proved to be a very quirky bike, as it seemed like Motobecane rushed it to production to catch the aero fad that was going on. The rear triangle seems to have had some sort of misalignment that we could not nail down, and the Shimano Adamas group was just really bad, but the bike, despite it's humble high tensile steel tubing, drew admiring stares and praises from other cyclists wherever he rode. He also noted that the steep frame geometry gave it "nervous" handling and the bike was so stiff on the vertical plne, because of the are aero tube section that it was quite painful to ride. He eventually traded it in for a Gitane Criterium after only a year of ownership. He still says that he should have kept the Profil anyway. I think they only made them for maybe just one model year and have not seen that many of them out there at all....

Chombi

ericbaker 08-07-12 02:43 PM

Haven't read this whole thread but I have a contribution, I've had quite a few rare and special bikes, this one trumps them all... By quite a bit, probably one of less than a dozen left in existance?

1896 (I say this as this as their patent I read was awarded in 1897, my head tube says patent pending... So it is but an assumption of dates, it is certainly pre-1900.

Known as "Old Hickory" made by Tonk Mfg in Chicago, also made bar stools and piano benches. Made of shaped pressed and glued 16 ply hickory laminate, hollowed out. Hand cut, hand shaped lugs.

This one needs some serious tlc just to show well again but it's quite the honor to own one.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/02b05945.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/9da69271.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/a4acdacd.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/6923d435.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/4adb0254.jpg

gaucho777 08-07-12 02:49 PM

Wow, Eric! That frame is incredible! You don't mention the name. What is it exactly?

Chombi 08-07-12 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by ericbaker (Post 14577554)
Haven't read this whole thread but I have a contribution, I've had quite a few rare and special bikes, this one trumps them all... By quite a bit, probably one of less than a dozen left in existance?

1896 (I say this as this as their patent I read was awarded in 1897, my head tube says patent pending... So it is but an assumption of dates, it is certainly pre-1900.

Known as "Old Hickory" made by Tonk Mfg in Chicago, also made bar stools and piano benches. Made of shaped pressed and glued 16 ply hickory laminate, hollowed out. Hand cut, hand shaped lugs.

This one needs some serious tlc just to show well again but it's quite the honor to own one.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/02b05945.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/9da69271.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/a4acdacd.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/6923d435.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/4adb0254.jpg

That's cool,....you can see how old it is by the way the wood has shrunk at the joints, away from the metal "lugs".
I suspect that even when new it had lots of flex at the joints though.....It could have only existed and be used in those days when society was so much less litigious.....
Today's bamboo bicycles are so much better designed and built compared to this one.

Chombi

Metacortex 08-11-12 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by seedsbelize (Post 12265975)
http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1298433076
http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1298433076
http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1298433076
http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1298433076

I'm told it's a Schwinn, though the only place that name can be found is on the brake levers, and it has the Giant built Schwinn date code. It appears in no Schwinn catalog that I've seen. I've seen photos of two others, on the internet.
Somewhere I have better photos.

From the book "No Hands", in Chapter 14 (Land of the Giant):
"By 1977, the Giant factory produced its first lug-frame steel road bike for Schwinn, under the World label. It was a gold-colored ten-speed with a smart white band that sold for about $130. The Schwinn name was left off, because the American company's marketers were uncertain how their customers would react to Taiwanese goods."
That sounds exactly like the bike you have, which would be the first model Giant made for Schwinn. The following year they dropped the "World" badging and added the Schwinn name: http://bikecatalogs.org/SCHWINN/1979...LL/1979_07.jpg

The book goes on to say that by 1986 Giant was producing 700,000 bikes a year for Schwinn, which was more than 80% of Schwinn's total production. In 1987 Schwinn struck a deal with China Bicycles to supply bikes, which was largely responsible for Giant entering the US market selling essentially the same bikes it was building for Schwinn, but under the Giant name for 10 to 15% less.

atomasz 11-12-12 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by Otis (Post 14567766)
That frame looks identical to a bike I had that was Romani. Even the same color. If you search the old CR archives there is some info on Romani.

can be a Kondor or Kotter (German), they used Romani frames.

Im, try to identify my bike too, probably a Kondor.
See: http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ame?highlight=

Poguemahone 11-12-12 08:04 AM

Love the old wood bike. Extremely cool. Coolest thing on thread of cool things...

Try finding one of these. Alfio Bonanno, obscure Italian builder from Catania, Sicicly.

http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/a...anodone006.jpg

Along with the CID/Eisentraut on page one of this thread, one of the two actually rare bikes I have been fortunate enough to find.

rootboy 11-12-12 08:22 AM

That Bonanno is super cool. Beautiful.

shiver 11-12-12 10:28 AM

Herrera

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8068/8...2be0a038_c.jpg
Velo Course Herrera by rj_shiver, on Flickr

probably made in my area Languedoc-Roussilon, since there's Languedoc crest in some parts of the frames

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8208/8...443a9cb1_c.jpg
Velo Course Herrera by rj_shiver, on Flickr

seedsbelize 11-12-12 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by Metacortex (Post 14593449)
From the book "No Hands", in Chapter 14 (Land of the Giant):
"By 1977, the Giant factory produced its first lug-frame steel road bike for Schwinn, under the World label. It was a gold-colored ten-speed with a smart white band that sold for about $130. The Schwinn name was left off, because the American company's marketers were uncertain how their customers would react to Taiwanese goods."
That sounds exactly like the bike you have, which would be the first model Giant made for Schwinn. The following year they dropped the "World" badging and added the Schwinn name: http://bikecatalogs.org/SCHWINN/1979...LL/1979_07.jpg

The book goes on to say that by 1986 Giant was producing 700,000 bikes a year for Schwinn, which was more than 80% of Schwinn's total production. In 1987 Schwinn struck a deal with China Bicycles to supply bikes, which was largely responsible for Giant entering the US market selling essentially the same bikes it was building for Schwinn, but under the Giant name for 10 to 15% less.

Thanks! I'd been thinking bout a repaint, though it really doesn't need it.

Bianchigirll 11-12-12 10:33 AM

Is Hetchins going "Green"?

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/02b05945.jpg

This is pretty neat.

mickey85 11-12-12 03:07 PM

I nabbed this at the co-op. Looks like a Peugeot built bike. I've searched high and low, and have only seen one other Oscar Egg - a child's bike with 20" wheels. This one has the markers of a 70's UO-18, but is wearing patterned steel 700c rims.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...PHTO0010-2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...PHTO0011-2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...PHTO0012-2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...PHTO0013-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...PHTO0014-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...3/PHTO0015.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...3/PHTO0016.jpg

Just because it's rare doesn't mean anyone wants it.

callig 11-14-12 01:59 PM

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I have a Condor Superbe frame that I hope to build up it likely dates from the mid 70's A guy on CR has a 1975 Condor Superbe and when he saw my pictures he said t could be a smaller twin to his. It is only primed at this time.http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=283769http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=283770http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=283771http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=283772http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=283773

ColonelJLloyd 11-14-12 02:12 PM

That's an awfully fancy bottom bracket shell. Surprising to see such a crude bottle boss. Were the bosses added later?

sloar 11-14-12 02:13 PM

Beautiful lugs

randyjawa 11-14-12 02:49 PM

Do three wheelers count?

http://www.mytenspeeds.com/My_TenSpe...ull_Side_1.jpg

http://www.mytenspeeds.com/My_TenSpe...Full_TQR_2.jpg

callig 11-14-12 04:43 PM

I don't know if the bottle bosses are original or not. The pictures I have of the 75 Condor Superbe are to small for me to see the bosses on it plus he has a bottle cage on it. It has an interesting history. It came to Canada from Hong Kong and it was painted as a Gios. I was pretty sure it wasn't a Gios so I asked the friend of mine where he got it. He had been home to Hong Kong for the summer and said a friend of his used it for racing in Hong Kong and had it repainted as a Gios because he liked that kind of bike. I asked him what it was he could only say it was English. I made a comment that if he ever wanted to get rid of the bike I was interested. about 5 yrs. later I was told to come pick up the bike it was mine.

Thats about all I know about the Frame

eastcoaststeve 11-14-12 06:29 PM

I've posted this one in a few threads before, but it really is my rarest ride.

Built by William Jayne in Chris Chance's shop in Boston in the '70's:

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/v...ccredball1.jpg

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/v...ccradball6.jpg




http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/v...ccradball3.jpg




Brazed on cog:
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/v...ccradball4.jpg



Campagnolo track ends too:
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/v.../reardrop1.jpg




Steve

Chombi 11-14-12 06:34 PM

Wow!,....that is just like really weird...like......:twitchy:
Is there any real engineering advantage to suce a frame??

Chombi

rootboy 11-14-12 06:39 PM

That's the most unusual thing I've seen ... all day.

And there were two squirrels doing the waltz in my front yard this morning.

Mercian Rider 11-14-12 06:48 PM

Not literally unique, but I haven't seen many, even though they're made in central Ohio.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/j...lohund/003.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/j...inheadtube.jpg

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/j...d/Franklin.jpg

Sixty Fiver 11-14-12 08:14 PM

Moulden XC redux... had a little makeover done this summer and barely got to ride it before the snow fell.

http://www.ravingbikefiend.com/bikep...new%20(21).JPG

afilado 11-14-12 08:49 PM

Wow, the nicest Franklin I've seen. Jack is one of the unsung best. He builds AND paints his own frames.

J



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