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WTH - the EX said it's not for sale anymore? (warning, this is an ebay rant)

Old 08-13-10, 08:58 AM
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WTH - the EX said it's not for sale anymore? (warning, this is an ebay rant)

If some of you folks remember my older posts from about a year ago, I've been wanting a Bridgestone RB-1. Alas, it's gained sufficient cult status that a good clean one costs a small fortune.

I won a '92 RB-1 on Sunday night the 1st; while I was out elsewhere (and not reading my email, b/c frankly I had gotten sick and tired of the endless searching) the seller requested payment in 48 hours, THEN requested to cancel only 24 hours later! Reason given was that I hadn't responded, and had only 4 feedback ratings. I was ticked off but decided to grant his request. I tried to open a dialogue with the seller, but he just left nasty comments on my feedback. I still haven't posted any retort despite the fact that he became completely unresponsive to my messages.

Fast forward to last night. Having given up on Bridgestones, I thought that the Miyata 914 someone had posted up in the CL/ebay thread looked to be a really good bike - my size, great condition, good price, etc. I had decided to go drive to Racine, WI to pick it up in person even though it would have been a lot of gas to drive up there from the Ozarks. I had asked the seller if local pickup or meet somewhere in between was okay WELL before the end of the auction. I was determined to not have any miscommunications. He said local pickup only.

After I won the auction he sent me an invoice for bike + shipping, with this message: "
Thanks for your bidding and i hope you enjoy the bike. I will have the bike box and shipped on Monday when i receive the payment through PayPal, I require three days for payment then I submitt second chance offers. Thanks Again JIM F"

After asking him to send an invoice reflecting the cost of the bike only, with local pickup, he sent me a second invoice, with this message: "Thanks for your bidding and i hope you enjoy the bike. After payment.... I will wait till you come into town and email me and then will give you my phone number for use to meet for you to take procession of the Bicycle. Thanks Again JIM F"



NOW this morning what do I get....a friggin' request to cancel!

Here's what he had to say: " Additional information from seller: The bike is not available for sale now. My Exwife does not want to sell it now. Sorry I get stuck with fees...you get no bike or to drive out of your way."

I. Am. Ticked. Off. The ex? What's with the funky Eenglish, too? Too many Nigerian scams?

Although I haven't canceled this auction YET, I'm half glad I didn't sell one of my pistols to pay for the auction; because I damn sure might have wanted to use it, starting at his toes, if I had driven all the way up there only to be stiffed. Then again it may well be just a completely fictictious item with a nonexistent seller. The more I think about it the more it makes sense to me.

But anyways. What do you folks think I should do? Since I don't have any toes to shoot?

Tom

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Old 08-13-10, 09:05 AM
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To me this is a mild annoyance, not rant worthy. He canceled an auction...you didn't get it or have to pay for it. No big deal. If this is the worst thing that ever happens to you, you're doing well. There are plenty of other bikes out there.
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Old 08-13-10, 09:08 AM
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Yeah, people seem to be getting flakier on ebay. On the Bridgestone, payment was required within 48 hours, but the seller canceled it after only 24 because you hadn't contacted them? That's an arsehole move.

I had something happen last spring, that while not as wierd as what you went through, still pisses me off. I won an item (audio equipment), and paid for it within an hour (Saturday). Seller contacted me thanking me for payment (again, Saturday). I waited until Tuesday, and hadn't received any ship notification. I went to look at the item on ebay, and find that the seller had canceled the auction and refunded my money. Same in Paypal. No notification or anything. At least I got my money back, but I wanted the item. Took me 3 months to find another one.
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Old 08-13-10, 09:28 AM
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Sorry about your problems.

I am now avoiding ebay like the plague.

I have enough reliable sources for the "parts" I need, and became weary of dealing with the "occasional" flakes and those who think "junk" is worth the moon.

I do enjoy watching friends succeed on ebay and realize it can be done.

I agree with Aaron though, there are so many bikes out there, you'll eventually find the right one.

This is not the end of the world, believe me.

I seem to be finding way too many bikes, so that is a different issue, isn't it?
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Old 08-13-10, 09:36 AM
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Don't give it a second thought.
Just keep your money and start looking for another, possibly better deal.

After all, you can't change it ,and the net effect is no more nor less significant than when someone else beats you to a sweet deal fair and square.
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Old 08-13-10, 09:55 AM
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+1 Flakes on ebay = typical.

The cancelled auction is also a strategy some use in place of a reserve auction.
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Old 08-13-10, 10:12 AM
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What?? You can list something on ebay, let the auction end with a clear auction winner, then just decide "nevermind" for the heck of it?
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Sure you can, that's what feedback is for
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That's a bunch of bull**** right there. If at all possible, I would not have the seller of the hook. People may do it on CL all the time, but part of the reason to use Ebay, is for the security in the fact that there's more at stake than just your reputation, (which isn't enough for a lot of people anymore).
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Old 08-13-10, 06:12 PM
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Well, I just woke up after a fitful few hour's sleep (I work overnights), checked my mail, and now this: "
Hello sorry about the crap.... now my Ex-wife knows she is
screwing everyone and has had some remorse....So the sale is
still on if you like...I am not sure how deal with the Resolution
Center Complain..I quess you must decline the decline and then
pay for item and then it goes through as a Sale...but i am only
guessing at that, so you may want to ask and I will ask on my
end.
Jim F
Sorry for the mess"

Ahhh, hell. I don't know. Does the bike even exist in the first place? (I'd like to think so) Anyone got an opinion? Is there anyone in the area I could trust to facilitate?

Decline the decline? What if the ex changes her mind again? besides which, what could/would ebay do anyway?

I think I'm going back to bed....

Tom
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Old 08-13-10, 06:37 PM
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I'm currently dealing with one of my Sunday riding partners who's husband hit her with a divorce. As soon as you say the word 'ex-' to anything regarding relationships, all hope for sanity goes right out the window.
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I say tell the arse your in if he ships it to you for the price of the pick up, other wise just pass, wait for him to relist and see if you can get it for cheaper
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I would tell him to urinate up a rope.
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Miyata auction sounded fishy, be happy he canceled. If he's legit and is once again offering that bike to you for pick up...for your inconvenience, you'll pay him during the pick up, you get bike, satisfied, then he gets money.
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If that is an auction by a seller called 'space [something followed by a number]' he has had it for sale several times, on eBay and CL, with asking/BIN/starting prices way up there, for example:

https://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-1991-Miy...efaultDomain_0

So he may just be feeling sellers' remorse if he didn't get what he wanted. It's possible there really is an ex but I wouldn't necessarily believe it. And he can't say the bike 'is no longer for sale' as he ALREADY SOLD IT.

Good luck with this.
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I went ahead and accepted his cancellation. Just too long a drive, too much risk, not worth the aggravation. I feel better already, now time for me to sleep a bit.


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Should've asked for pictures of the ex.
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FZ1Tom I don't have an RB1 but do have several very nice vintage bikes in immaculate condition; if you've got the wild hair for a road trip, Lincoln is way closer to Springfield than Racine...
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Miyata auction sounded fishy, be happy he canceled. If he's legit and is once again offering that bike to you for pick up...for your inconvenience, you'll pay him during the pick up, you get bike, satisfied, then he gets money.
I don't know, that's a mighty long drive, 10 hrs (?) just to be turned down in person. I would just pass on it and look for a different bike.
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I went ahead and accepted his cancellation. Just too long a drive, too much risk, not worth the aggravation. I feel better already, now time for me to sleep a bit.


Tom
Good move - something just didn't sound right from the first with that guy. Like Gomango says, there are other bikes, and half the fun is looking for them!
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