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suggestions if I go custom for randonneuring bike....ie best bang for the buck

Old 08-19-10, 10:49 PM
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suggestions if I go custom for randonneuring bike....ie best bang for the buck

i have a rivendell (stock) atlantis and stupidly sold my rambouillet a few yrs back...thinking of buying a moulton tsr 30 just because it's ...well...'different''...have read tons of good things on it.

I'm 48 and can get a bit stiff in upper neck/shoulders on longer rides (vs my 20 something yrs)...so am also considering going custom...unfortunately mike barry of mariposa in toronto has retired...and here in vancouver bc well let's just say that randonneuring style bike designs aren't nearly as big as popular as the mtn bike crowd (we have some of THE most demanding and exhillarating mtn biking in the world, I've been told) vs in the north west states of washington, oregon and california where you find a much more balanced bike culture.

anyway...enough rambling from my soapbox....if I were to go custom for one who can make great comfortable bike rides for my style and age (comfort is important, yet so is speed and ride fun factor when I have my 'mojo')...pls feel free to offer your suggestions...esp those who've you have dealt with and ridden their customs.

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Old 08-19-10, 10:59 PM
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https://www.lyonsport.com/
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I had a similar set of issues and requirements when I started shopping for a custom frame 3 years ago. I got a Davidson, close by you in Seattle. It's a very comfortable bike, made to fit a guy (me) who has no flexibility. I've also seen some of his bikes made specifically for randonneurs and they're great.

A couple of other PNW options:

- Dan Boxer, a Seattle rando rider, has started making bikes under the Boxer Bicycles brand: https://boxerbicycles.com/
- Rodriguez in Seattle has a model called the Rainier: www.rodcycle.com.
- Co-Motion in Eugene has the Nor'Wester.

All w/in a days drive of you if you want to visit (Co-Motion has a couple of dealers in the Seattle area)
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Old 08-20-10, 09:15 AM
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+1 for Lyonsport. Jeff's been building frames for DECADES, not just years, and knows his stuff. The prices on his "L'Avecaise" frames are amazingly low for what you get. If I ever get a custom rando bike, Jeff's building it.

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I've never ridden one, but if I were building a rando bike/sports tourer...I'd go to Bilenky in Philly. He has Rando front rack specific forks and has built several rando styled bikes.
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Old 08-20-10, 10:34 AM
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You might want to check out Mercian.
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Capricorn

Minneapolis builder, very nice work.

Affordable, yet super detailed!



I'll either buy a stock frame this winter or have him build a light tourer/rando frame that is similar to the pictured frameset.

https://capricornbicycles.blogspot.com/
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Check out coho bikes too.
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Check out coho bikes too.
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They are beauties, no doubt.
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saving for one...
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I'll put in a plug for a semi-custom lugged, steel Ebisu, made in Japan and sold through Jitensha Studios in Berkeley, CA: https://www.jitensha.com/eng/aboutframes_e.html

I had a frame built for 650B wheels and long-distance riding last year and have really enjoyed it. You can specify a variety of features and lengths though the frame angles will be stock. I'm in the Boston area and did all of the communication via email and phone. Here's a pic:



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Lotsa bucks, but you'd get an incredible bang from Peter Weigle. I saw a few of his bikes at a show here, and they were jaw-dropping. If I had the dosh for a custom frame, that's where I'd go. I've heard a lot of good things about Bilenky, but they're both east coast guys -- not exactly your neighborhood.
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Old 08-20-10, 09:27 PM
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...I'd go to Bilenky in Philly.--
get's my vote too
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If I were getting a custom frame built for me for randonneuring...
I would by a Trevor Jarvis.
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Old 08-20-10, 11:31 PM
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I'd just keep looking around for vintage steel frames until you find one you like - between the dozens of manufacturers in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, you're guaranteed to find one you like. Then fill it up with whatever components you can get good prices on. (Remember, bar-end shifters are very economical and reliable - and the triathalon bikes they're mounted to get upgraded very, very frequently!)
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jeff of lyonsport is too busy right now to take on more custom work... catching up to his orders, I guess...as per his reply to my inquiry a few wks back (sigh).

so am still looking around for a quality builder who won't break my bank.

as per box bikes and rodrigues in seattle, anyone tried their customs?

or capricorn cycles as someone suggested...or trevor jarvis?

.in my city there are retailers selling custom for independent fabrication, merllin, bilenky, sycip, all city etc by a local 'randonneur' stylist (though we in canada get burned buying locally imo despite our dollar being so on par with the US).
https://dream-cycle.com/brands/better-bikes.php

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Just to let everyone know I called Coho a few weeks ago to buy a custom rando and he said he was not making any more fames.

I really wanted one of those frames. So now thinking of Boulder Bikes. Good price and details and they're made by Waterford so quality should be good.

If all else fails I might just build up a Soma Smoothie ES with a 55mm offset steel fork and see how that works.

Cheers

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If all else fails I might just build up a Soma Smoothie with a 55mm offset steel fork and see how that works.

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Sanner Cycles...deals specifically with neck and back pain issues when designing a bike for the customer.

https://www.sannercycles.com/
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Sanner Cycles...deals specifically with neck and back pain issues when designing a bike for the customer.

https://www.sannercycles.com/
+1

I got one of his early frames when he was selling them on Ebay to get his name out. Clean work and great fit.
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and with all due respect, Dylansbob, upon researching that name (and thanks), there was also a less than stellar review, too, about QC on bikeforums (or some other blog)....so at this time I'd have to pass.....not saying people don't make mistakes, but when you're new and against established seasoned competition, well then any slips can cost...

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Another custom builder that I have ridden is a Renovo.
They are amazing and will turn heads wherever you go. Lots of control over the frame building but they do cost more than a fancy looking steel or alu bike
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here in vancouver bc well let's just say that randonneuring style bike designs aren't nearly as big as popular as the mtn bike crowd
The BC Randonneurs Cycling Club https://www.randonneurs.bc.ca/ is based there. Even if you're not contemplating a 1200 km brevet, some members should be able to set you straight about what the local fare has to offer.
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yes thanks am aware of them...most riders get their bikes built from davidson, r&e, mariononi, waterford etc...even sam cunningham on the island IF you've got deep pockets...mike barry of mariposa no longer builds (toronto)...

only local guy here in vancouver bc area (from what I know) is chris dekerf
https://www.dekerf.com/
and he's more well known for his mtn bikes (i have a '96 generation...use mostly for commuting: what a great rocketship...more enjoyable than my riv atlantis (prob cause my atlantis is toolong in top tube)...both weigh almost the same but maybe it's the front shock....or fatter front (semi mtn bike tire that provides for more cush, but man does that baby bring a smile to my face all the time...will NEVER let that one go (dekerfs rule).
..will also go on to the bc rando blog anyway to leave a post and see what I get....i did before on seeking used but bike but got no response.

that said, however, I did go on and under their search engine type in 'builder' and 'bike fit' ...got barry lycette in victoria bc...spoke with him (very nice chap)...he referred me to berg bikes as a great local builder too
https://www.bergbikes.com/html/home.html ....andone have any experience with him?

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The BC Randonneurs Cycling Club https://www.randonneurs.bc.ca/ is based there. Even if you're not contemplating a 1200 km brevet, some members should be able to set you straight about what the local fare has to offer.

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that said, however, I did go on and under their search engine type in 'builder' and 'bike fit' ...got barry lycette in victoria bc...spoke with him (very nice chap)...he referred me to berg bikes as a great local builder too
https://www.bergbikes.com/html/home.html ....andone have any experience with him?
I have seen two of his bikes in person. One was a steel all rounder and was very nice. The other is a made to spec Ti bike for a long distance gent who makes his home in Victoria. The bike included all the requested details including a custom rack for the customer's particular trunk bag. The bike is well enough made, but my personal suspicion is the builder compromised on a few aspects to meet the customer's requests, which made the complete bike feel a little lacking in cohesiveness... picture 25mm tires and ksyrium SL wheels with a rack and split fenders so Dura-Ace 7900 brakes could be used.... Not what I would have done but the customer is extremely happy with the bike and that is all that matters. My only real criticism is that the welding is not a smooth and a larger manufacturer like litespeed or serotta, but that is inconsequential to the ride I am sure.
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