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Old 08-23-10, 07:13 PM
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Shorties on a Hetchins!?

Does anyone know where I can find Shorties like these. I found some Bluemels on eBay but they were 50mm I'd need something less than 40.


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Old 08-23-10, 07:15 PM
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Does any know where I can find Shorties like these. I found some Bluemels on eBay but they were 50mm I'd need something less than 40.

The Bluemels Tour de France shorties came in two widths...I don't know the measurements but I sold a mismatched set a few years back.
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Wald makes short fenders that mount with a single L bracket. I refuse to post a link for fear you would actually purchase them.

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Old 08-24-10, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd View Post
Wald makes short fenders that mount with a single L bracket. I refuse to post a link for fear you would actually purchase them.
Thank you for that!

And don't worry, some of us Easterners are planning to go riding with Andrew in a couple weeks, and we will take that opportunity to make him see the errors of his ways.

Shorties. Sheesh.
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The Hetchins is painful to look at. It would look fantastic with full fenders.
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personally I think it is a beautiful bike, even with the shorties. I scored a pair of those Waldish ones and some cheaper plastic ones from ebay but they are not cut the same way these are.

just what do you Gents have against shorties anyway?

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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
just what do you Gents have against shorties anyway?
Is this an attempt to get some folks riled up on a Tuesday morning?


#3 They're ugly. The short lines juxtaposed with the longer frame lines clashes. They simply look like an afterthought and not something that functions on the bike (see #1).
#2 They rattle. Perhaps there are some that can be mounted (and kept) straight, but I haven't seen any that stay that way for long.
#1 They do not do what fenders are supposed to do. . . keep your arse dry!

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Originally Posted by Grand Bois View Post
The Hetchins is painful to look at. It would look fantastic with full fenders.
Yes it certainly hurts MY eyes, it's SO beautiful !!!

Full 'fenders' would be Okay but shorties evoke the style of an era in it's homeland.

Weinmann, rather than Bluemels if you can find any. They were made in stainless and alloy. Haven't seen any stainless ones for years but I did salvage a pair of alloy ones from an old 10 speed beater back in 1998. Recently tightened the mounting plate rivets with a hammer and punch then polished them to a deep shine. They visually tidy up the look of my Claud Butler Elan. The pointed raised ridge on the front of the guard complements the pointed lugs of the frame. I think you might have problems finding new ones, but e-bay or salvaging a pair from an old bike might work.

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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
just what do you Gents have against shorties anyway?
Just that they are a useless vestige of something that is fundamentally utilitarian. They're like those decorative plastic shutters people nail up next to windows that they don't even fit. If they were purely decorative, like a gas tank or a fender emblem, I could respect that; but they're neither decorative nor utilitarian. Just... useless.
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Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd View Post
Is this an attempt to get some folks riled up on a Tuesday morning?

not really mostly it is an excuse to be self promoting and post pics of my bikes

OH back to the OP is that your Hetchins? or are you just using it as an example for the fenders?

what about this fender?


http://www.woodysfenders.com/store/i...8tp3lu6aor6ll5
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
what about this fender?
I'll give it a pass on aesthetics and functionality, but a low pass on durability; note that the front one has already been removed, presumably busted.
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No. it's not mine, I wish it were.

I never thought fender size would evoke such emotion....I guess size does matter!


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personally I think it is a beautiful bike, even with the shorties. just what do you Gents have against shorties anyway?




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Yes it certainly hurts MY eyes, it's SO beautiful !!!

Full 'fenders' would be Okay but shorties evoke the style of an era in it's homeland.



Thank you for comming to my defense, felt like I fell into a pit of vipers for a moment! The reason for the interest in the Shorties is sentimental, I remember them growing up and secondly, I'm building up a Raliegh that does not have eyelets for fenders. I don't particularly like the idea of using "P" clamps, they would clutter up the chrome fork and stays.

some of us Easterners are planning to go riding with Andrew in a couple weeks, and we will take that opportunity to make him see the errors of his ways.
So, we'll have something to discuss while we ride. I'll be wearing full fenders as not to offend anyone of course.






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they are a useless vestige of something that is fundamentally utilitarian.



Perhaps, maybe not though, while they don't keep the rider dry, they do keep the road dirt off the brakes.










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I'll give it a pass on aesthetics and functionality, but a low pass on durability; note that the front one has already been removed, presumably busted.
I don't think there is front one to that set and the pic is from the seller.
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Is this an attempt to get some folks riled up on a Tuesday morning?

No, if I were, the post would have read:

OK, I took the white Bluemels off my Dad's old Clubman this morning and cut them down with tin snips. Still waiting for the Testors Chrome paint to dry.....how do they look?

Seriously, I have an '82 Raliegh Frame without eyelets and I'm looking for options. I don't like the wood/Bamboo options and I'm not too keen on SKS Race Blades.
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No, if I were, the post would have read:

OK, I took the white Bluemels off my Dad's old Clubman this morning and cut them down with tin snips. Still waiting for the Testors Chrome paint to dry.....how do they look?

Seriously, I have an '82 Raliegh Frame without eyelets and I'm looking for options. I don't like the wood/Bamboo options and I'm not too keen on SKS Race Blades.
How much clearance is there? A few years ago I got a pair of Zefal fenders that attach with no hardwarre. They're much more than shorties, though. The front one clipped onto the brake bolt through the bottom of the fork; the rear one clipped to the brake bridge and to the seat tube. I liked the look, though I could sympathize with anyone who didn't. If you have room for shorties, they would fit. Finding them might be a challenge, though. Remind me next week, and I may be able to get you a photo.
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oooohhhh your softening a bit..... I'll remind you. 37's for sure, 40's maybe but it would be very tight. I'm a few months way from completing the build so I have time to think this over.
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Andrew if you really want that set of Shorties you posted about in the OP I've got em and I'll bring em to you next time we ride.
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oooohhhh I do! Please & thank you! If I change my mind, I'll be sure to return them.
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cool. I hope you like em better than all the rest of us!
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I thought you guy,s knew why there are shorties ? (I DID explain it once a long time ago in this forum).
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
not really mostly it is an excuse to be self promoting and post pics of my bikes

what about this fender?


http://www.woodysfenders.com/store/i...8tp3lu6aor6ll5
I want to go to there!

Anyone have any experience with these fenders? I've been looking for fenders for my gold Super Course and I think these might look pretty cool...
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I want to go to there!

Anyone have any experience with these fenders? I've been looking for fenders for my gold Super Course and I think these might look pretty cool...
Yes. Zebra wood and purple heart. They're a little narrower than he usually makes so they clear Shimano 600 sidepulls.



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