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koga miyata 'randonneur extra' 1992...vs lyonsport or gunnar sport for randonneur.

Old 08-24-10, 09:46 PM
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koga miyata 'randonneur extra' 1992...vs lyonsport or gunnar sport for randonneur.

hi everyone...I'm a 48 yr old guy looking for a good, fast, light yet comfortable CC tourer/randonneur with clearance for fenders with up to '32 tires if needed.

i currently have a rivendell stock atlantis and am considering buying for US$500 a slightly used 1992 50" koga miyata randonneur extra (black/gold with chrome fork)...just wondering if anyone has familiariity with it...ie how it rides compared to todays' randonneurs by others, ie lyonsport, rivendell rambouillet or gunnar sport (the sport and lyonsport i'm also considering)...and also it's weight compared to todays's bikes..and if the price is decent, too....would be shipped by Europe to me here in vancouver bc canada.

so if not the '92 koga randonneur extra i'll look seriously at the Gunnar Sport (52") or custom Lyonsport (his cheaper tig welded series but still no less functional...have heard great things on his frames for 'bang for the buck').....if lastly i could come across a slightly used pashley moulton tsr 27 i'd spring for that as a serious contender too
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Konaaronsnake acquired a Koga Traveller from me a couple of months ago. In capabilities a pretty similar frame. I think Aaron would be willing to tell you everything on it.
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@OP: There's also a Touring forum here at BikeForums that you might get some good responses in.

An option that might seem a little out of left field is the 2011/2010 Raleigh Clubman. Its got 9 speed with brifters, Rack and Fender Eyelets on both ends, rear rack bosses on the seatstays, front lowrider rack bosses on the fork blades. Plus it comes wearing fenders and 35's.

They don't market it as a tourer but its perfectly capable as one.
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Originally Posted by Elev12k View Post
Konaaronsnake acquired a Koga Traveller from me a couple of months ago. In capabilities a pretty similar frame. I think Aaron would be willing to tell you everything on it.
I love it...period.

I think your frame would be a bit lighter than mine and possibly a touch more agressive. The ride is more responsive than other tourers I've used naked...it doesn't have that dead feeling. It wasn't light weight by road standards, but it was lighter than the Miyata 1000s and other full tourers. It's probably a good 1/3rd lighter than a LHT and similar in weight to a cross-check. The feeling is terrific...it sucks up road vibration without feeling dead and it has every concievable feature you could want. If I truly had to nit pick, I'd like a 3rd set of water bottle bosses. Everything about the frame and paint screams attention to detail.

I put a decent amount into that bike (more than I planned with the Tubus racks and Honjos) and don't regret it at all. It is easily one of my favorite rides and it's responsive on trails.
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thanks...but I am not looking for a tourer: i already have one quite capable in my rivendell atlantis...am instead seeking a quick comfortable randonneur/CC tourer.
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thanks...but I am not looking for a tourer: i already have one quite capable in my rivendell atlantis...am instead seeking a quick comfortable randonneur/CC tourer.
I think the bike you're looking at would amply suffice your wants. I could have built mine that way and been very pleased with the results, and your's is more geared that direction,
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The op is looking for rando bike not a touring bike. Go to the long distance forum and not the touring forum. The Koga might work great,but how do you play to carry stuff i.e. front loaded or rear loaded. Rear loading can be done on any geometry of bike. Front loaded needs a low (er) trail bike to handle the best.

Everything is lighter than a LHT. I own a lht and both of my steel 29er mtn bikes are lighter.
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The op is looking for rando bike not a touring bike. Go to the long distance forum and not the touring forum. The Koga might work great,but how do you play to carry stuff i.e. front loaded or rear loaded. Rear loading can be done on any geometry of bike. Front loaded needs a low (er) trail bike to handle the best.

Everything is lighter than a LHT. I own a lht and both of my steel 29er mtn bikes are lighter.
AGAIN...the Traveler could have been built up in that way and worked perfectly (as a CC tourer/rando bike). I would imagine the Koga he's asking about would have worked better than mine for it, and mine would have worked quite well. The Traveler was not sold as a true tourer and while it can certainly be built that way, it isn't like an LHT, where thart's all it could be. That's why I mentioned the LHT.
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thanks everyone...i'm also in contact with koga themselves to get more info ...and will also check out the other thread, as per kindly suggested by one poster....thanks again for the imput.
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