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It's official, old Schwinn Steelie beats new Trek CF!

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Old 08-28-10, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by thenomad
Ride the steel bike with no water bottles and the CF bike with two full large bottles and they'll be the same weight. Then its just fit.
I've always found it funny how much we stress over grams and pounds of our bikes when a pint of water alone adds a pound to the frame.
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Originally Posted by jamesdak
LOL, show off!! I totally agree though. My fast is relative to me only. Heck I've only been at this about 4 months now and the main goal is weight loss still. Once I get into the 170's I'll start working on being a "proper" biker and my pace. Oh and I only averaged 15.5 mph on my last 70 mile ride, I hold my head in shame.
I love that post too....
and the comment from Jamesdak about being fast only relative to oneself.

heres my quick anectode:

I started cycling in fall 08 after ACL reconstructive surgery. I got the bite and since then I've ended up building and helping friends with bikes rather than riding and i love C&V. Anyways, point is my first bike was an 2007 Al louis garneau with Al/CF fork and mostly Shim105. My favorite ride however has been a mint Nishiki Landau CrMo Full 105 w/ dt shifters (1991) i found for super cheap on CL (came with the original shoes too). My usual ride is home to school which is 32km (19.88mph).

on the LG best time: 57:20 minutes (33.5km/hr = 20.8 mph)
on the Nishishi: 54:04 minutes (35.5km/hr = 22.05 mph)

And it been like this this whole yeah.. faster on the steel. and I ride them both equally.
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Originally Posted by khatfull
Okay time for some chest puffing

How's 20.5mph over 17.2 miles? https://connect.garmin.com/activity/33680139 That's a loop I run after dinner and when I want to hammer short distance.
How's 18.9mph over 69 miles? https://connect.garmin.com/activity/35279567 That's my north wind out and back route. This ride was solo.
How's 13.2mph over 60 miles on New Years Day in Minnesota? https://connect.garmin.com/activity/21651212 That was on my old Giant ATB.

RobbieTunes is faster yet...I genuflect to him.

And sorry, fast is relative, we all suck compared to the pro peleton
Flat landers <rolls eyes>
my first metric averaged 15.1 in the rain! https://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united...one/1058487976

LOL just messing with you.
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Originally Posted by unprintable
I've always found it funny how much we stress over grams and pounds of our bikes when a pint of water alone adds a pound to the frame.
Yes... and I'm 25 lbs. overweight. Cheaper for me to lose 25 lbs. than it is for my bike to lose 5.
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Originally Posted by unprintable
I've always found it funny how much we stress over grams and pounds of our bikes when a pint of water alone adds a pound to the frame.
+10 Mark Allen, back when triathletes made aero and weight into normal considerations, said he asked his sponsor for a lighter bike, and was told "for $2000, no. But we'll hire a dietician for $200 and you can lose a couple pounds...."

A local girl here is in great shape (all nuances intended) and rides her P3C. She has been lusting after Zipps, and needs to choose between a new range/oven and Zipps. Me, I'd take and sell the wheels she has, buy a set of carbon Vuelta's on local CL, get the oven, and bake cookies until I ate enough to equalize the weight loss of the Zipps. Simple, really.

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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
When you get your Madone back, take the dimensions of the Scwhinn and try to duplicate them on the Madone. Perhaps you'l find renewed joy in that, to match your newfound satisfaction with real steel.
My local group seems to be all Trek, with an occasional bikesdirect.com ride and a Cannondal Slice to drool over. However, we've added another Ironman guy, a Peugeot Triathlon, a Lemond Alps de Huez, a Mercier, and one of the bikesdirect guys has decided to go get his old Ironman for a go at a second life. We're adding a lady on an Ironman soon. A friend in Raleigh just went and got an Ironman to supplant his aluminum EM, aluminum Ridley, and Ti Lynskey. A CF riding friend in CA (two classic CF bikes) is looking into a Paramount....

Steel is catching on.

I have no idea why all the Ironman bikes, though.....


+1 The reality is that, as a matter of physics, the Trek should be faster if both bikes are set up identically.

But then, the race was rigged.
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