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cudak888 10-04-10 10:40 AM

Double Vision: Chrome Paramounts descend amongst us mortals
 
I snapped these shots while preparing for a thread about Crawford Decals' new Paramount transfers. Enjoy.

http://www.jaysmarine.com/paramount_seeingdouble_1.jpg

http://www.jaysmarine.com/paramount_seeingdouble_2.jpg

http://www.jaysmarine.com/paramount_seeingdouble_3.jpg

http://www.jaysmarine.com/paramount_seeingdouble_4.jpg

http://www.jaysmarine.com/paramount_seeingdouble_5.jpg

http://www.jaysmarine.com/paramount_seeingdouble_6.jpg

http://www.jaysmarine.com/paramount_seeingdouble_7.jpg

http://www.jaysmarine.com/paramount_seeingdouble_8.jpg

http://www.jaysmarine.com/paramount_seeingdouble_9.jpg

http://www.jaysmarine.com/paramount_seeingdouble_10.jpg

-Kurt

cudak888 10-04-10 10:40 AM

http://www.jaysmarine.com/paramount_seeingdouble_11.jpg

http://www.jaysmarine.com/paramount_seeingdouble_12.jpg

http://www.jaysmarine.com/paramount_seeingdouble_13.jpg

http://www.jaysmarine.com/paramount_seeingdouble_14.jpg

-Kurt

pastorbobnlnh 10-04-10 10:52 AM

Very theological! See Genesis 13:2. Here's my paraphrase based on "The Message."

"By now Abram (sic. Kurt) was very rich, loaded with classic bicycles, and especially with silver and gold Schwinns and Raleighs."

pastorbobnlnh 10-04-10 10:55 AM

You know, I've always found the curve on the Weinmann levers more visually appealing to me than the curve on Campagnolo levers. This is a great picture as to why.

http://www.jaysmarine.com/paramount_seeingdouble_11.jpg

cudak888 10-04-10 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh (Post 11567370)
Very theological! See Genesis 13:2. Here's my paraphrase based on "The Message."

"By now Abram (sic. Kurt) was very rich, loaded with classic bicycles, and especially with silver and gold Schwinns and Raleighs."

Don't forget Peugeots ;)


Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh (Post 11567394)
You know, I've always found the curve on the Weinmann levers more visually appealing to me than the curve on Campagnolo levers. This is a great picture as to why.

Long-reach Campag levers are generally not as graceful to work with as standard-reach Campag levers.

The standard-reach levers are a bit more visually appealing, but setting ANY lever to look good on the Campione Del Mundo handlebars isn't easy.

-Kurt

auchencrow 10-04-10 11:57 AM

O, beware, my lord, of jealousy!
It is the green-eyed monster which doth mock
The meat it feeds on.
- William Shakespeare

(You see Kurt? You even got old Bill going! :thumb: )

Fred Smedley 10-04-10 01:46 PM

Duplicates..................what is the point?

wahoonc 10-04-10 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by Fred Smedley (Post 11568460)
Duplicates..................what is the point?

No they aren't...many, many subtle differences. ;)

Aaron :)

stien 10-04-10 02:25 PM

More things different than in common haha. Very cool.

RoboIsGod 10-04-10 02:47 PM

Kurt-

How do you approach wrapping the bars without damaging the hoods (I assume you don't curl them upwards) and how do you get such a clean finish at the top end of the bar?

Thanks

KonAaron Snake 10-04-10 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by Fred Smedley (Post 11568460)
Duplicates..................what is the point?

You've clearly never seen a double mint commercial.

Mike Mills 10-04-10 02:49 PM

<thread hijack in progress>

Who, what, when, where, why and how does one get their frame chrome plated (and have it done well)?

<thread returned to you>

khatfull 10-04-10 02:53 PM

No secret I'm not a Schwinn guy but HO-LEEEE BUCKETS Kurt, that's mighty impressive. Wow.

stien 10-04-10 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by RoboIsGod (Post 11568847)
Kurt-

How do you approach wrapping the bars without damaging the hoods (I assume you don't curl them upwards) and how do you get such a clean finish at the top end of the bar?

Thanks

I seem to think they just take the lever off somehow.


Originally Posted by Mike Mills (Post 11568866)
<thread hijack in progress>

Who, what, when, where, why and how does one get their frame chrome plated (and have it done well)?

<thread returned to you>


Platers will seem to do it, and why? Because it's awesome. These were factory though.

that_guy_zach 10-04-10 02:53 PM

They came that way. Its hard to get "Real" Chrome done now.

Scooper 10-04-10 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by Mike Mills (Post 11568866)
Who, what, when, where, why and how does one get their frame chrome plated (and have it done well)?

Mike, CyclArt does premium chrome plating, and they do it right (e.g. they dispose of hazmats legally).

There's an article describing the process on CyclArt's website HERE. Doing it right, especially doing the prep work correctly to get a blemish free mirror-like finish, is pretty labor intensive.

CyclArt Price List. Scroll down to "New Chrome Plating & Masking"....

KonAaron Snake 10-04-10 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by khatfull (Post 11568890)
No secret I'm not a Schwinn guy but HO-LEEEE BUCKETS Kurt, that's mighty impressive. Wow.

I'm not normally much of a Paramount guy either...they were considered a bit of a joke by the time I was riding...but some of them, like these, make me ready to hail Waterford in the morning. Every now and then I still regret not buying Jim's when I had the chance.

cudak888 10-04-10 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by Fred Smedley (Post 11568460)
Duplicates..................what is the point?

Far from it. I started another thread about the P13 geometry revision of 1971:

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...New-quot-P13-s


Originally Posted by RoboIsGod (Post 11568847)
How do you approach wrapping the bars without damaging the hoods (I assume you don't curl them upwards) and how do you get such a clean finish at the top end of the bar?

I wrap top down so they're flush at the top (Eddy style), and as for the levers, I follow Ray Dobbins' bar wrap trick:

http://www.raydobbins.com/molteni_replica/molteni_tip


Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake (Post 11568857)
You've clearly never seen a double mint commercial.

That's RobbieTunes' line.

-Kurt

RoboIsGod 10-04-10 05:02 PM

Ahhh I see, Thanks!

Rabid Koala 10-04-10 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh (Post 11567394)
You know, I've always found the curve on the Weinmann levers more visually appealing to me than the curve on Campagnolo levers. This is a great picture as to why.

Visually appealing, maybe, but I find them really uncomfortable to use. I have very large hands, and they are still awkward to grip.

cudak888 10-04-10 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by Rabid Koala (Post 11569997)
Visually appealing, maybe, but I find them really uncomfortable to use. I have very large hands, and they are still awkward to grip.

They're not bad on the Giro bars. Not outstanding, but not bad at all.

My favorites are the medium-reach Weinmann levers on my '61:

http://www.jaysmarine.com/paramount61_091509_6.jpg

-Kurt

Jeff Wills 10-07-10 09:03 PM

If anyone's interested, there's a 25" chrome Paramount frame for sale at Portland's Community Cycling Center. It looks to be in reasonably good shape but lacks most of the decals (so I'm going by what the shop has on the tag). The tag notes that there's a little rust near the BB and a couple dents in the downtube. Still... mighty tempting, particularly since it's my size and I have a bunch of Campy NR parts looking for a home.

Sigh- too many projects right now anyway.

cudak888 10-07-10 09:29 PM


Originally Posted by Jeff Wills (Post 11589105)
If anyone's interested, there's a 25" chrome Paramount frame for sale at Portland's Community Cycling Center. It looks to be in reasonably good shape but lacks most of the decals (so I'm going by what the shop has on the tag). The tag notes that there's a little rust near the BB and a couple dents in the downtube. Still... mighty tempting, particularly since it's my size and I have a bunch of Campy NR parts looking for a home.

What's the price? I might be interested if you intend to pass.

-Kurt

pastorbobnlnh 10-08-10 05:31 AM

Jeff,

If you don't need chrome, rust, nor dents, :twitchy: I could help you out with this 25" coppertone P. :o Let Kurt deal with the chrome restoration. He loves to block, align, and polish! :thumb:

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...0/DSC00432.jpg

randyjawa 10-08-10 06:34 AM

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Though never a Paramount fan, for personal reasons, I find your bicycles stunning in their presentation.

I was considering chrome plating my Cyclops (yes, I have found the perfect vintage road bicycle for me), until I saw how much $$$ chrome plating is these days! That said, I am still going to have a look at the idea but through different sources.

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