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Old 10-07-10, 04:57 PM
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schwinn of Canada because they branded every part on the bike. In fact for a time they MADE every part on the bike, or so says my former boss.
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Originally Posted by divineAndbright
I dont think the "Schwinn of Canada" is all that fitting, at least not in a more "modern era". Schwinn made much more higher quality models - paramount, superior, volare, and not to mention all the 80s jobs like circuit, tempo, peloton, etc. All ccm had was the tour du canada, I dont think the silver ghost and concorde and mistral really fall into the same sorta line. Maybe if ccm stuck around longer.. then again they went bankrupt for a reason, they kinda focused on department store stuff.
They're similar to Schwinn because they date back to the the 1890's and dominated their home markets for the better part of the century. CCM did make very high quality, performance track/6 day bikes from the 20's to the 40's in the form of CCM Flyers. Many were custom made by an in house shop run by Doc Morton. There was an Australian post card of Major Taylor on a CCM Massey Harris fixed wheel on ebay but it went real high. As you say, quality post-war CCM race bikes were few and far between but they certainly made a lot of rugged roadsters, tandems, delivery bikes and 3 speed utility bikes.

There's a great 1918 CCM catalogue here for download or use the online reader...https://www.archive.org/details/bicyc...pair00canauoft
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I purchased a very old CCM last year. It has a license registration on it marked 1948 (from London, Ontario). According to his serial chart, I believe it to be manufactured the first year that they introduced Reynold's 531 (the bike's serial begins with "X"). I may need to rent a couple tools from him, if you could pass it along? I sent the journalist an email a few weeks ago, and there was talk of conveying my eagerness to correspond.
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Anyone know anything about the 90's CCM chromoly mountain bikes that are marked "made in Canada"?

Quality, weight, etc...?

Curious as someone who grew up in a small town without a LBS. CCM (and Supercycle) bikes were all I knew for a long time and grew up riding. Never had any of the "fancy" ones - but some of the framesets seem alright browsing Kijiji. Like a CCM Heat or a Northridge (those were the desired ones when I was a kid!).
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Originally Posted by Skikick
Anyone know anything about the 90's CCM chromoly mountain bikes that are marked "made in Canada"?

Quality, weight, etc...?

Curious as someone who grew up in a small town without a LBS. CCM (and Supercycle) bikes were all I knew for a long time and grew up riding. Never had any of the "fancy" ones - but some of the framesets seem alright browsing Kijiji. Like a CCM Heat or a Northridge (those were the desired ones when I was a kid!).
The orignal CCM company went bankrupt and the brand name was acquired by Procycle, a Quebec based bicycle manufacturer. Procycele sold the hockey side of the business to Sports Maska but kept the bicycle rights until fairly recently, when they sold them to Sportsd Maska. CCM was never a premium brand for Procycle. It would be rare to find one that ventured into the mid-range. They were generally sold though chain stores, like Candian Tire or Walmart. I believe both the Heat and Northside are more modern than 1990s. The ones I've seen were entry level models.
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As kids we joked CCM Crappiest Crates Made. We all road them though. My briother had a nice ccm silver cloud
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Originally Posted by T-Mar
The orignal CCM company went bankrupt and the brand name was acquired by Procycle, a Quebec based bicycle manufacturer. Procycele sold the hockey side of the business to Sports Maska but kept the bicycle rights until fairly recently, when they sold them to Sportsd Maska.
Clarification:

The book "The Political Economy of Business Bailouts Volume 2" by Michael Trebilcock, Marsha Chandler, Morley Gunderson, Paul Halpern, and Jack Quinn, gives a good account of the decline and end, in 1983, of Canadian cycle and Motor Company Ltd.

According to this book:

On 8 December 1982 CCM accepted an offer from Gestion R.A.D. Inc. for its inventories, fixed assets,
and intellectual properties. The sale to Gestion was completed on 22 January 1983.
Gestion then sold the hockey division on a going-concern basis to Sport Maska Inc.,
a Quebec-based manufacturer of athletic uniforms.
Pro Cycle Inc., also of Quebec, bought the assets of the money losing bicycle division.
The immediate plan was to use only the CCM plant assets for parts,
but it also bought the right to use the CCM name in the future.
Procycle Inc only bought the right to use the CCM trademark name.
I do not believe that Procycle Inc. ever owned the CCM trademark.

CCM branded bicycles from Procycle often had labels on them.



I believe the companies Gestion R.A.D. and Groupe Procycle Inc are owned by the same person, Raymond Dutil.
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Originally Posted by Hummer
Clarification:

The book "The Political Economy of Business Bailouts Volume 2" by Michael Trebilcock, Marsha Chandler, Morley Gunderson, Paul Halpern, and Jack Quinn, gives a good account of the decline and end, in 1983, of Canadian cycle and Motor Company Ltd.

According to this book:

On 8 December 1982 CCM accepted an offer from Gestion R.A.D. Inc. for its inventories, fixed assets,
and intellectual properties. The sale to Gestion was completed on 22 January 1983.


Gestion then sold the hockey division on a going-concern basis to Sport Maska Inc.,
a Quebec-based manufacturer of athletic uniforms.
Pro Cycle Inc., also of Quebec, bought the assets of the money losing bicycle division.
The immediate plan was to use only the CCM plant assets for parts,
but it also bought the right to use the CCM name in the future.


Procycle Inc only bought the right to use the CCM trademark name.
I do not believe that Procycle Inc. ever owned the CCM trademark.

CCM branded bicycles from Procycle often had labels on them.

I believe the companies Gestion R.A.D. and Groupe Procycle Inc are owned by the same person, Raymond Dutil.
I'm well aware of the labels, the various companies owned by Dutil and their roles in the CCM sale. It is common practice to create holding companies for ownership of intellectual properties such as trademarks, then license their use to other companies, either within their corporate structure or outside.

However, most forum members are not aware of these companies and their structure, nor would the vast majority be interested. Consequently, for the sake of brevity, I used the one associated corporate entity with which most members would identify, Procycle.

Since we're clarifying matters, I would like to point your source's misuse of "Gestion" in your 2nd quote. It is being used as a proper (company) name, when it is simply the French world used for holdings (i.e. CCM Holdings = Gestion CCM). "Gestion" by itself, as used in the quote, has no meaning and could be interpreted by Anglophiles as the company name.

Also, the company name was never, as you state, "Canadian Cycle and Motor Company Ltd.". It was Canada Cycle & Motor Co., Ltd..

Furthermore, by the time of the sale in 1983, the Canada Cycle & Motor Co., Ltd. no longer existed. It's name had been legally changed to CCM, the prior year.

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