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Daveyates 10-22-10 12:23 PM

Pedals always upside down
 
Hi,

Sorry if this is a silly question but how do you stop pedals from being upside down in the resting position. When i take my feet off of my lyotard pedals they always go upside down.
It's a bit annoying having to get them to spin over to place my foot properly. Can they be weighted to lie the right way up? I'm not using clips by the way.

Thanks

Henry III 10-22-10 12:47 PM

You could put some stationary bike pedals on your bike as most of those usually have weights on the bottom to keep them right side up. Their pretty gawdy looking though.

Grand Bois 10-22-10 12:48 PM

There are weighted pedals, but most of us want the parts on our bikes to weigh as little as possible. These make it easier to flip the pedals.

http://cgi.ebay.com/MKS-Spin-Pedal-F...item564022c97f

Chombi 10-22-10 12:50 PM

What type of Lyotard pedals are these? Quill or rat trap?
Quill type pedals usually have a small tang/spike the sticks out of the cage at the rear of the pedal for you to use to flick the pedal into position with your cleated shoe to get into the strap/cage. Rat traps do not have a bottom or top to them so there should be no problem with those, unless you added on a strap and cage to them. You can possibly add a short bolt on the back cage to use to flick the pedals right side up then.

Chombi

Daveyates 10-22-10 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by Chombi (Post 11663629)
What type of Lyotard pedals are these? Quill or rat trap?
Quill type pedals usually have a small tang/spike the sticks out of the cage at the rear of the pedal for you to use to flick the pedal into position with your cleated shoe to get into the strap/cage. Rat traps do not have a bottom or top to them so there should be no problem with those, unless you added on a strap and cage to them. You can possibly add a short bolt on the back cage to use to flick the pedals right side up then.

Chombi

I think they are quill pedals.
So there should be a spike to help to flip them over?
I shall check them out later and practice flipping them using the spike.
Thanks for the advice.

John E 10-22-10 01:47 PM

CPSC pedal reflectors get in the way of the flip-up tab. This is why I use reflectors only on the fronts of the pedals, with their mounting screws doing double duty for the toeclips, and reflective tape on the backs.

Chombi 10-22-10 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by Daveyates (Post 11663830)
I think they are quill pedals.
So there should be a spike to help to flip them over?
I shall check them out later and practice flipping them using the spike.
Thanks for the advice.

I called it a spike but it's usually more of a triangular shaped tab. There should be on on it if it's a quill type pedal, but admittedly, the French Lyotards do sometime seem to have simpler designs thatn other brands, so I wouldn't be surprised if they left it off., Again, a small short bolt threaded through the back cage portion could do the same job.

Chombi

ColonelJLloyd 10-22-10 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by Grand Bois (Post 11663613)
There are weighted pedals, but most of us want the parts on our bikes to weigh as little as possible. These make it easier to flip the pedals.

http://cgi.ebay.com/MKS-Spin-Pedal-F...item564022c97f

+1
I just bought a set of these for my MKS touring pedals.

Grand Bois 10-22-10 04:41 PM

Apparently Chombi didn't follow my link.

Daveyates 10-23-10 05:48 AM

Thanks for all of the advice.
I tried it with the spikes and it works out good although i need some practice.
I was originally trying to flip them over with my toes and they kept ending up upside down again doh!
It's nice to learn something new.

Chombi 10-23-10 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by Daveyates (Post 11666395)
Thanks for all of the advice.
I tried it with the spikes and it works out good although i need some practice.
I was originally trying to flip them over with my toes and they kept ending up upside down again doh!
It's nice to learn something new.

It will come naturally after some practice but make sure it dies not distract you too much as most of us almost fell off our bikes or ran into dsomething trying to flip our pedals with the "spikes" the first few times. A few practice session away from traffic will be good to do. Once you get used to it, you don't even have to look at the pedals when you do it.:thumb:

Chombi

Bianchigirll 10-23-10 08:38 AM

UH WOW :twitchy: I have not really used clips and straps for so long I almost forgot about this little bit of joy:innocent:

Citoyen du Monde 10-23-10 08:41 AM

You need some Campagnolo SGR pedals that have a mechanism that keeps them always facing upwards.

Oldpeddaller 10-23-10 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by Citoyen du Monde (Post 11666798)
You need some Campagnolo SGR pedals that have a mechanism that keeps them always facing upwards.

I've got a pair of those but can't bring myself to use them - they are SO heavy!

bigbossman 10-23-10 02:00 PM

I have a bunch of NOS Toe Flip brand pedal flippers for sale, if anyone is interested..... :)

Oregon Southpaw 10-23-10 08:43 PM

http://www.mandurahsbikeman.com.au/shop/images/5610

Sorry. Someone had to.

mainstreetexile 10-24-10 10:42 AM

This is why I like double-sided "platform" pedals. Both sides the same = no upside down!

MKS sylvan touring:
http://i51.tinypic.com/jsk6qv.jpg

I have a pair of lyotard 136r double sided pedals I pulled off an old motobecane mirage that I use on my do-everything around town bike.

Chombi 10-24-10 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by mainstreetexile (Post 11670860)
This is why I like double-sided "platform" pedals. Both sides the same = no upside down!

MKS sylvan touring:
http://i51.tinypic.com/jsk6qv.jpg

I have a pair of lyotard 136r double sided pedals I pulled off an old motobecane mirage that I use on my do-everything around town bike.

The common name for this type of pedal is "Rat Trap" for obvious reasons. Lyotard made jillions of these that came as standard on many Peugeots and other French bikes.

Chombi

fietsbob 10-24-10 11:26 AM

Somewhat like the above..
Lyotard 460D (duraluminum) have been easy to flip the toe clip over ,
was the pedal of choice for cyclocross,
before step in pedals came on the scene, as cheap, and good enough.

JohnDThompson 10-24-10 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by mainstreetexile (Post 11670860)
This is why I like double-sided "platform" pedals. Both sides the same = no upside down!

MKS sylvan touring:
http://i51.tinypic.com/jsk6qv.jpg

Until you put toeclips on them, anyway.

JohnDThompson 10-24-10 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by fietsbob (Post 11671029)
Somewhat like the above..
Lyotard 460D (duraluminum) have been easy to flip the toe clip over ,
was the pedal of choice for cyclocross,
before step in pedals came on the scene, as cheap, and good enough.

Or the Lyotard #23 "Marcel Berthet" pedals, with the extra-large tab to make it easy to flip into the toeclip:
http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/berthet-pedal.jpg

Grand Bois 10-24-10 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by fietsbob (Post 11671029)
Somewhat like the above..
Lyotard 460D (duraluminum) have been easy to flip the toe clip over ,
was the pedal of choice for cyclocross,
before step in pedals came on the scene, as cheap, and good enough.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/2585091573/

Stronglight hasn't been around lately and I miss him. He's probably more knowledgeable about C&V bikes than anyone else here. You can get a pretty good education just going through his Photostream site.

ColonelJLloyd 10-24-10 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by JohnDThompson (Post 11671449)
Until you put toeclips on them, anyway.

Which makes them awesome.

mainstreetexile 10-24-10 10:54 PM


Originally Posted by JohnDThompson (Post 11671449)
Until you put toeclips on them, anyway.

True, I ride all my pedals "naked" though. :innocent:

OP mentioned that he's also not using clips.

mkeller234 10-24-10 11:26 PM


Originally Posted by Grand Bois (Post 11672366)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/2585091573/

Stronglight hasn't been around lately and I miss him. He's probably more knowledgeable about C&V bikes than anyone else here. You can get a pretty good education just going through his Photostream site.

+1, A lot of the times I find his photostream while I am looking for something else. Then I forget about what I was doing and read the captions, photo after photo.

tatfiend 10-25-10 12:53 AM

If not using toe clips then use double sided pedals. I like the VO Touring pedals as being light weight, good looking IMO and fairly reasonably priced. They have enough platform area so can be used comfortably with soft soled shoes and can be used with toe clips too. The MKS Sylvans are a decent pedal too for no toe clip use as are many BMX and downhill dual sided pedals.

I see absolutely no point in putting up with single sided pedals such as quill and track pedal designs if not using toe clips as they are pointless for such use.

Daveyates 10-25-10 07:05 AM

I have just added some toe clips that i had lying around.
It's the first time i have used them and once my feet are in they seem great.
I'm still getting used to the pedal flip trick though!


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