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Guns & Bikes
I know BSA started as a gun maker who then also moved into bicycle and motor cycle manufacture. After all BSA stands for Birmingham Small Arms. The same is I believe true for Steyr of the Steyr, Daimler, Puch company of Austria. Also true for Iver Johnson in the USA IIRC. What other bicycle manufacturers started as arms makers or combined the two businesses?
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Enfield
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mossberg, miyata
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Related, Look started out as a ski and binding manufacturer -- thus the evolution to clipless pedals and carbon bikes.
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Isn't Thompson also a US-based military arms contractor?
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Originally Posted by RFC
(Post 11676725)
Related, Look started out as a ski and binding manufacturer -- thus the evolution to clipless pedals and carbon bikes.
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Originally Posted by WNG
(Post 11677242)
Isn't Thompson also a US-based military arms contractor?
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Guns are to bikes like pickles are to masonry.
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Originally Posted by Old Fat Guy
(Post 11677268)
Yeah, and Shimano makes fishing stuff. How the heck is that related to guns?
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Originally Posted by Old Fat Guy
(Post 11677268)
Yeah, and Shimano makes fishing stuff. How the heck is that related to guns?
The connection to guns is this: when manufacturers that make one thing enter another market, the reasons for choosing the new product says a lot about how that company sees itself. Also, the way its original products & processes influence the new ones can be instructive. The effect of making guns on making bicycles would be fun to explore. |
Bsa
Surely BSA stands for Bl**dy Sore Arse, innit?
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Originally Posted by bigbossman
(Post 11677316)
The Swiss and Finns had some bad-ass ski troops in WWII. Probably still do. Maybe they use/used Look gear?
http://www.kevos4.com/Wartime%20Photos%207.htm I'm still looking for masons equipped with pickles. |
Originally Posted by grepdot
(Post 11677656)
The Finns at least, had bicycle troops as well. Probably bad-ass....
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If memory serves me correct Remington Firearms Company manufactured bicycles. Of course they also made Typewriters, and Sewing Machines, and Washing Machines as well.
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Don't forget Vespa!
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Originally Posted by aixaix
(Post 11677581)
Shimano started with bike parts. After they became a major bicycle component manufacturer they realized that making fishing reels involved the same design parameters (size, forces involved, e.g.), degree of precision, materials & tooling as bike parts. Not to mention profit potential in a market built on limitless variation & funded by discretionary income.
The connection to guns is this: when manufacturers that make one thing enter another market, the reasons for choosing the new product says a lot about how that company sees itself. Also, the way its original products & processes influence the new ones can be instructive. The effect of making guns on making bicycles would be fun to explore. |
Sterling made pistols and bikes in the 1800's
John Deere made bicycle is the 1890's then again in the 70's. Tractors, guns; same difference. |
As I learned in this thread this morning, Orbea.
http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20espag...irearms-11.jpg http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20espag...irearms-04.jpg (More.) |
Originally Posted by Old Fat Guy
(Post 11677268)
Yeah, and Shimano makes fishing stuff. How the heck is that related to guns?
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Originally Posted by RFC
(Post 11678197)
Sorry John, it's a difficult concept -- manufacturer of one type of product taking that expertise to the manufacture of bikes.
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S & W, but I doubt they actually make them.
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I am having a hard time relating end mills, screw machines, punches, sheet metal equipment and drawing machines to building bicycle frames. Even the bolt on components are a little removed from gun manufacturing. The whole production process is different too. barrels are round and some, less than in the past, frame components are round but that is where the similarity ends.
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Originally Posted by Old Fat Guy
(Post 11678248)
Not the topic of the thread, Bob. Conceptually, I get it. Do you?
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Ceska Zbrojovka made, before wwii and perhaps still, bicycles at the Straconice plant.
Also, FN Herstal for several decades beginning in the late '90s, including a shaft-driven design... http://bsamuseum.wordpress.com/c1905...tal-chainless/ |
Originally Posted by Old Fat Guy
(Post 11677284)
Thompson does not equal Thomson.
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