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Epicus07 11-09-10 09:43 PM

Nitto Randonneur bars...differences
 
Any one know the difference between the B132 and the B135? thanks

TimeTravel_0 11-09-10 09:59 PM

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-3773699..._2130_20692742

ColonelJLloyd 07-19-11 12:20 PM

Bump

The above link isn't working for me. Does anyone have an answer to this?

fender1 07-19-11 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd (Post 12952167)
Bump

The above link isn't working for me. Does anyone have an answer to this?

3. Math skills are pretty weak for an accountant, just sayin'............

wahoonc 07-19-11 12:40 PM

I think it has to do with the clamp diameter, best as I can tell. I found the B135 description here. B132 here.

Aaron :)

CV-6 07-19-11 12:48 PM

Just eyeballing the photos on the Nitto site, it appears the 132 sweeps back more than the 135. I have 132s, but no 135s to make a true comparison.

politburo 07-19-11 12:50 PM

the b135 drops sweep out, the b132 drops have the classic shape.

nlerner 07-19-11 12:50 PM

While perhaps not describing the differences between those two models, this site has lots of good comparison info:

http://ruedatropical.com/2009/03/roa...-bar-geometry/

Neal

ColonelJLloyd 07-19-11 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by wahoonc (Post 12952286)
I think it has to do with the clamp diameter, best as I can tell. I found the B135 description here. B132 here.

Aaron :)

I think Universal Cycles is wrong. I don't think either the B132 or the B135 come in anything but a 25.4mm clamp.


Originally Posted by politburo (Post 12952339)
the b135 drops sweep out, the b132 drops have the classic shape.

Where did you find that information?


Originally Posted by CV-6 (Post 12952329)
Just eyeballing the photos on the Nitto site, it appears the 132 sweeps back more than the 135. I have 132s, but no 135s to make a true comparison.

Cool. Thanks, Lynn. Which area looks like it sweeps back more? The tops or the drops?

ColonelJLloyd 07-19-11 01:13 PM

This is from QBP:

B135 45cm

Nitto Randonneur drop handlebars feature an upsweep in the flats and a traditional bend drop.

Randonneur
  • Width measured center to center
  • Sliver finish and no grooves

Bar Clamp Diameter: 25.4 mm
Bar Width: 45 mm
Width Measurement: Center
Bar Reach: 105 mm
Bar Drop: 120 mm
Drop Bend Style: Round
Aero Bar/Cross Lever Diameter: 25.4/24.0
Bar Top Style: Round
Material: Alloy
Defined Color: Silver
Color: Silver
Weight: 320.0 g
Catalog Page: 472

Invoice Description: Nitto B135 Randonneur Hbar 45cm 25.4 Alloy
Manufacturer Part Number: B135 450mm

B135 42cm


Nitto Randonneur drop handlebars feature an upsweep in the flats and a traditional bend drop.

Randonneur
  • Width measured center to center
  • Sliver finish and no grooves

Bar Clamp Diameter: 25.4 mm
Bar Width: 42 mm
Width Measurement: Center
Bar Reach: 105 mm
Bar Drop: 120 mm
Drop Bend Style: Round
Aero Bar/Cross Lever Diameter: 25.4/24.0
Bar Top Style: Round
Material: Alloy
Defined Color: Silver
Color: Silver
Weight: 320.0 g
Catalog Page: 472

Invoice Description: Nitto B135 Randonneur Hbar 42cm 25.4mm Alloy
Manufacturer Part Number: B135 420mm

B132 44cm

Nitto Randonneur drop handlebars feature an upsweep in the flats and a traditional bend drop.

Randonneur
  • Width measured center to center
  • Sliver finish and no grooves

Bar Clamp Diameter: 25.4
Bar Width: 44 cm
Width Measurement: Center
Bar Reach: 105 mm
Bar Drop: 120 mm
Drop Bend Style: Round
Aero Bar/Cross Lever Diameter: 25.4
Bar Top Style: Round
Material: Alloy
Defined Color: Silver
Color: Silver
Weight: 325.0 g
Catalog Page: 472

Invoice Description: Nitto B132 Randonneur Hbar 44cm 25.4mm Alloy
Manufacturer Part Number: B132 440mm

So, other than the 1cm of width difference, QBP lists no other differences. Surely that isn't correct or they'd just have called that bar the B135 44cm. Universal Cycles lists different measurements for the drop and reach, but I don't know whether or not to believe them.

LesterOfPuppets 07-19-11 01:17 PM

Tops on the 132s bump up more before heading to the drops. They have a tad more reach and ends don't come back as far. See items 4 and 5 here.

http://ruedatropical.com/2011/01/nitto-road-drop-bars/

ColonelJLloyd 07-19-11 01:23 PM

Oh, man! That's exactly what I was looking for. Thanks Neal and LesterOfPuppets!

Now. . . which one do I want?

B135 45cm

http://img1.qbp.com/6SPsvm45/prodl/HB1021.jpg

B132 44cm

http://img1.qbp.com/6SPsvm45/prodl/HB1024.jpg

Just for fun, here's the 44cm Noodle.

B177 44cm

http://img1.qbp.com/6SPsvm45/prodl/HB1026.jpg

To my eyes, the B132 looks more like the traditional randonneur bends I've seen. I'm leaning toward that one. They cost more, so they're better, right? ;)

LesterOfPuppets 07-19-11 01:26 PM

Was I really mesmerized by the handlebar drawings for 27 minutes between reading thread and responding to it? wow!!!!

:)

nlerner 07-19-11 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd (Post 12952522)
Oh, man! That's exactly what I was looking for. Thanks Neal and LesterOfPuppets!

Now. . . which one do I want?

I'm extremely tempted by the Grand Bois Randonneur bars:

http://www.compasscycle.com/images/GBRando%20copy.jpg

http://www.compasscycle.com/images/GBRandoFront800.jpg

A bit pricey at $98, but they could be THE bars.

Neal

LesterOfPuppets 07-19-11 01:33 PM

I think I like the 132s for the wider tops. Not sure how I feel about the shorter ends. My current bars come back behind the tops a bit like the 135s but I hardly put hands there so I could probably go without that bit.

ColonelJLloyd 07-19-11 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 12952573)
I think I like the 132s for the wider tops. Not sure how I feel about the shorter ends. My current bars come back behind the tops a bit like the 135s but I hardly put hands there so I could probably go without that bit.

That is precisely my thinking.

Those are super awesome, Neal. I'm gonna hand ol' Mr. Heine a pretty penny for some tires. Not sure I'm ready to drop a Benjamin on a handlebar. My LBS will give me a pretty good deal on either the B135 or B132. More importantly, they're only 41cm at the ends. I know 3cm isn't much, but I'm buying these bars for my '73 World Voyageur that already has 41cm alloy randonneur bars.

ColonelJLloyd 07-19-11 01:42 PM

I ordered both the B135 and B132. That ought to solve the issue.

nlerner 07-19-11 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd (Post 12952631)
I ordered both the B135 and B132. That ought to solve the issue.

Hah! I like the way you think. My problem with ordering the Grand Bois bar is indecision as to which bike they'd go on. Or maybe I'd start with the bars and build a bike around them? Hmm!

Neal

late 07-19-11 01:47 PM

The Nitto Rando bars feel narrower than they are.

I think that might be characteristic of rando bars in general.

-holiday76 07-19-11 02:11 PM

b135's on my Carlton. I got them because they were the widest rando bar I could find. I just rode them on that century a few weeks ago and I really do think they're great.

I used to own a wide noodle as well and i liked that too, but I'll say that I think you can achieve the same result the noodles bend provides by just running a shorter stem.

-holiday76 07-19-11 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by late (Post 12952659)
The Nitto Rando bars feel narrower than they are.

I think that might be characteristic of rando bars in general.

agreed

due ruote 07-19-11 02:13 PM

fwiw I've been running the b135 x 45cm on my Gran Sport. After nothing but Cinelli bars for decades they took a little getting used to, but I don't think I've been more comfortable on a bike than this current setup, which includes a Brooks Pro at about bar height.

cuda2k 02-14-12 08:30 PM

Ok, for those who have the B135 handy, what's the approx width at the hoods? Looking for something at around 42cm at the hoods to put on my A-Frame. (forgive the zombie thread, figured I'd ask here rather than start a new thread... if you dont like it, you can always complain to the admin... oh wait. :p)

ColonelJLloyd 02-14-12 09:22 PM

I do not have a B135 to measure, but I just measured the hoods on my B132 and they are 37, maybe 37.5mm center-to-center. They measure 44cm at the ends.

http://gallery.me.com/justinhughes/1...13246854220001

http://gallery.me.com/justinhughes/1...13246854010001

http://gallery.me.com/justinhughes/1...13246854330001

http://gallery.me.com/justinhughes/1...13246858820001

http://gallery.me.com/justinhughes/1...13246856550001

stevejanofsky 02-14-12 09:53 PM

I'm no expert, but you might have trouble finding something 42 cm center to center on the hoods. I have some old 70's Grand Bois rando bars set up right now which seem fairly wide to me and my hoods sit at 37 cm center to center. 42 cm center to center on the drops. On the plus side, these bars came on many old Schwinns and should run far less than the $98 discussed earlier. My co-op has stacks of them...
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7170/6...cbfc9eb7_d.jpg


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