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Colnago Mexico made for USSR team 100km time trial race at Moscow Olympics 1980

Old 01-26-13, 12:56 PM
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Yeah, can't wait to see it!

Especially that the OP pics are no longer available. How did you find your's?
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I cant wait to see this either. Where does one buy 2mm bearings?
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The headset and bearings were intact when I bought the stripped frame, as was the bottom bracket. Fortunately, though scratched and quite well-used, the frame was structurally perfect and not bent or misaligned. The Russian team did not retire these bikes following their 1980 win, but used them as trainers. Mine came to me with original enamel paint and decals.

All other parts I procured NOS: rims, groupset (in bits and pieces, $$$$), saddle, cables, etc., and I am doing all of the machine work and set up. looks like I may have to make some custom decals, as well; available sets are just a bit off. No biggie.

Here's how it looked this morning, sans bars and bottom bracket yet but newly-painted and partially assembled:















More as I progress...
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Yeah pics plz
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Why is the brake on the back of the fork???

(Never mind... I read the previous post regarding it!)

Very cool bike.

The brakes are the third gen Super Records that didn't come out until 1984-1985. I don't know if you're trying to make everything period correct or not?
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Thanks, Kactus. I have several sets of NOS SR brakes of various vintages. The first gens had missing fasteners. Eventually I want every part of this bike to be correct. Meantime I want to build it and ride it a bit first. Next to my '84 Nuovo Mexico, this is the most elegantly spidery, minimal bicycle in my collection. Without a rider in place, it's difficult to see just how delicate these frames were!

Here are those four beefy Russians astride their Colnagos during the 2-hour race:




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Can you tell me anything about the small production run on this model. It has Colnago
panto on forks
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
Where does one buy 2mm bearings?
Also known as 5/64" bearings...

FWIW, I have one of the Team USA frames that was supposed to go up against that Colnago, but didn't because we boycotted to protest the Soviet presence in, erm... Afghanistan...


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These frames look surprisingly bare of Colnago pantographing.

Why wouldn't Ernesto take full advantage of using pantographing on these high visibility racing frames?
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Will post some close up photos of the pantographing later in the week.

I purchased my frame off eBay from the Ukraine last year. It had been re-painted and decals applied. From research the decals are not accurate and the front forks have Colnago panto on them and no lug for the brake to sit on the inside, everything else about the frame seems correct (I think). I was extremely lucky to purchase the 17mm quill head stem from Italy. Seat post machined down using a 25mm Campagnolo aero. Bike set up for riding whilst I source correct period parts.

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Bulley--supposedly the frames for sale from the Ukraine last year were recently-built counterfeits. That was one reason they were offered without front forks--the forks were originally forged and the 17mm tubes added on, specially for the USSR team bikes. It's no big deal to produce replica lugged steel frames, even in one's garage or basement, but forging a custom fork is another matter. The handlebar stem was another custom part, and if a frame doesn't have it, it's possibly a fake.

These counterfeits were offered painted, with the wrong decals applied. The decals were vinyl on the counterfeits. On the original 1980 frames they were a mix of printed pressure-sensitive transparent Mylar and water transfer. There were no non-manufacturer decals (i.e., sponsor or component logos) on the original TT bikes, either, save one on the seat tube for Columbus tubing.

Are your dropouts stamped with the "Colnago" lettering? If not, it's cause for concern. The 8 team bikes all had "Colnago" dropouts. The other 16 bikes that were made for training supposedly all had serial numbers stamped on either bottom bracket shell or inside of one chain stay. The 8 team bikes had no numbers and were distinguished from one another by their water bottle colors! Decal placement on each head tube was slightly different, too.

Though the groupset was 90% Super Record ($$$), there was no pantographing to keep costs and delivery times down.

Here are some photos of my own 1980 TT frame, which came to me with decals intact though very badly scratched, complete headset and custom-forged 3ttt handlebar stem, Record bottom bracket, and forged front fork.

The original photos of my unrestored frame show that these frames had a lot of use once their Olympic Gold celebrity was over--they continued to be used by the USSR cycling team for practice.











Here's the bike, 95% finished, sans cables and decals, which are being made up. With the exception of the original Record bottom bracket, the entire group set is vintage NOS Super Record. Wheels are Nisi polished aluminum, Handlebars Cinelli. Seat post has been turned down to 24mm from an NOS very rare 25mm item. Tires were originally Clements, but are now Vittoria Kevlars because I want to ride it. 700C rear, 650C front.











I'll be riding it a bit soon!
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Hey John, do you remember us having Andy Weaver's 1983 7-11 Team Time Trial bike at Trek when we were building the Ladies 7-11 team bike for the 84 Olympics? It fit me well and was a fun lunchtime ride if memory service well. :-)
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Also known as 5/64" bearings...

FWIW, I have one of the Team USA frames that was supposed to go up against that Colnago, but didn't because we boycotted to protest the Soviet presence in, erm... Afghanistan...

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Senhor, further discussion. The frame did come with the forks and head set including bearings and spacer, but no head stem.

The dropouts are BREV CAMPAGNOLO stamped. Looking at your rear dropout in the original condition photo, they look like they read Brev Campagnolo aswell.

I cannot find a serial number on the frame.

The mechanic that put the bike together is a frame builder who specialises in restorations, confirmed the forks were forged.

Thanks for the info, I hope my frame is original and this just adds to the mystery of these bikes.

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Hey John, do you remember us having Andy Weaver's 1983 7-11 Team Time Trial bike at Trek when we were building the Ladies 7-11 team bike for the 84 Olympics? It fit me well and was a fun lunchtime ride if memory service well. :-)
Yes. We had a lot of interesting people and bikes go through there. I remember a lunchtime ride where we were comparing the ride characteristics of various aluminum bikes: Cannondale, Vitus, Klein,and the then-new Trek 2000. Gary Klein lent us his personal bike for that.

And the factory tours for e.g. Yoshi Shimano, and another for the Ultima consortium represented by Valentino Campagnolo and Antonio Columbo?

The 720 I built up for Frank Berto, and the Gitane "Team Replica" I built for Dustin Hoffman for a movie about the Tour de France that apparently never got finished... good times...
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What city are you in?

I know a shop that has one just like it. It is owned by a ex-russian team time trial member (back in the early 80s) He rode the coors classics.

Originally Posted by Senhor Colnago View Post
Bulley--supposedly the frames for sale from the Ukraine last year were recently-built counterfeits. That was one reason they were offered without front forks--the forks were originally forged and the 17mm tubes added on, specially for the USSR team bikes. It's no big deal to produce replica lugged steel frames, even in one's garage or basement, but forging a custom fork is another matter. The handlebar stem was another custom part, and if a frame doesn't have it, it's possibly a fake.

These counterfeits were offered painted, with the wrong decals applied. The decals were vinyl on the counterfeits. On the original 1980 frames they were a mix of printed pressure-sensitive transparent Mylar and water transfer. There were no non-manufacturer decals (i.e., sponsor or component logos) on the original TT bikes, either, save one on the seat tube for Columbus tubing.

Are your dropouts stamped with the "Colnago" lettering? If not, it's cause for concern. The 8 team bikes all had "Colnago" dropouts. The other 16 bikes that were made for training supposedly all had serial numbers stamped on either bottom bracket shell or inside of one chain stay. The 8 team bikes had no numbers and were distinguished from one another by their water bottle colors! Decal placement on each head tube was slightly different, too.

Though the groupset was 90% Super Record ($$$), there was no pantographing to keep costs and delivery times down.

Here are some photos of my own 1980 TT frame, which came to me with decals intact though very badly scratched, complete headset and custom-forged 3ttt handlebar stem, Record bottom bracket, and forged front fork.

The original photos of my unrestored frame show that these frames had a lot of use once their Olympic Gold celebrity was over--they continued to be used by the USSR cycling team for practice.











Here's the bike, 95% finished, sans cables and decals, which are being made up. With the exception of the original Record bottom bracket, the entire group set is vintage NOS Super Record. Wheels are Nisi polished aluminum, Handlebars Cinelli. Seat post has been turned down to 24mm from an NOS very rare 25mm item. Tires were originally Clements, but are now Vittoria Kevlars because I want to ride it. 700C rear, 650C front.











I'll be riding it a bit soon!
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Wow...Speachless....just wow!
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Thanks, Kactus. I have several sets of NOS SR brakes of various vintages. The first gens had missing fasteners. Eventually I want every part of this bike to be correct. Meantime I want to build it and ride it a bit first. Next to my '84 Nuovo Mexico, this is the most elegantly spidery, minimal bicycle in my collection. Without a rider in place, it's difficult to see just how delicate these frames were!

Here are those four beefy Russians astride their Colnagos during the 2-hour race:



The amazing thing is that those spindly bikes can hold up the weight. What does Colnago guarantee their road bikes for these days,100 kilo.
Those guys look like 100 kilo per leg.
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Senhor, further discussion. The frame did come with the forks and head set including bearings and spacer, but no head stem.

The dropouts are BREV CAMPAGNOLO stamped. Looking at your rear dropout in the original condition photo, they look like they read Brev Campagnolo aswell.

I cannot find a serial number on the frame.

The mechanic that put the bike together is a frame builder who specialises in restorations, confirmed the forks were forged.

Thanks for the info, I hope my frame is original and this just adds to the mystery of these bikes.

regards Ian
Yep--you're correct, Ian. My dropouts do say "Campagnolo", not "Colnago". No serial number would indicate one of the 4 team/4 spares original bikes, as the other 16 "contract" bikes did have numbers.

Because yours has been restored before you bought it, and if your desire is to bring it back to original livery, note my comments re: groupset and decals.

I have generated new, correct art for the decals in Illustrator files. I have not seen these exact decals on any other Colnago, but would be interested in whether my statement can be disproven. These decals have all the usual period elements--Championship stripes, two different Colnago Ace of Clubs elements, COLNAGO MEXICO lettering on the chainstays reversed in black with yellow shadow, and Ernesto's signature with his last name first on the seat tube. There are also three gold horizontal stripes on top and bottom of the seat tube decal, with "MADE ITALY" (sic) in Futura Light type in black over the top 3 gold stripes.

Should you like a copy of the Illustrator files (or a copy of the labels themselves), let me know.

Seems that we both possess our own pieces of Olympic history!
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Originally Posted by EhGiOeS View Post
The amazing thing is that those spindly bikes can hold up the weight. What does Colnago guarantee their road bikes for these days,100 kilo.
Those guys look like 100 kilo per leg.
Their human specs were remarkably similar--each was about 5' 10" and 170-180 pounds (which IMO is quite beefy for TT cyclists...)!

My Olympic bike is parked in front of my office desk, next to my other Colnago TT (a C50) and looks OK indoors. The moment I take it outdoors, though, its true fragility becomes very obvious!

I also have an '82 Nuovo Mexico, and although its geometry shares nothing with the Olympic bike, it does give the same delicate, elegant impression!

Here's a YouTube Video of the race highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IouWHoIv38c

BTW, I'm in Marin County, CA, USA.

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Call Velo Pasadena. I am not sure if that was his bike or not, but he's got one (complete) just like it there, same color too.
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Hi Senhor,

Yes definitely interested in having the correct artwork on the decals. I am happy to assist with payment for the setup and cover all costs to have a set sent to Australia.

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those half taped bars really brought the sexy back.
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