Curious, how many "young" C&V'ers on here...
12-02-10, 10:25 AM
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I turned 29 two days ago... found this forum when I was 27.
I had started cycling routinely again (should never have stopped), on a sports store mountain bike, and was researching new LBS quality mountain bikes.
Fell into the C&V forum somehow, and connected what I read here with the lugged steel road bike languishing on a rack at work.
Now my bed room is more of a bike garage.
Enablers, the whole lot of you.
I had started cycling routinely again (should never have stopped), on a sports store mountain bike, and was researching new LBS quality mountain bikes.
Fell into the C&V forum somehow, and connected what I read here with the lugged steel road bike languishing on a rack at work.
Now my bed room is more of a bike garage.
Enablers, the whole lot of you.
12-02-10, 10:29 AM
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Still 29 for another couple of months.
I've always had a thing for old stuff. Musical Instruments was the start of it and its led to Vintage Bikes. I'm too cheap to drop all that coin at once for a fancy modern bike so I've never played with them more than riding friend's here and there. I like to think that what worked in the past was good enough for some pretty famous racers at the time so it should be good enough for lil ol' me
"Oh I was so much older then, I'm Younger than that now"
I've always had a thing for old stuff. Musical Instruments was the start of it and its led to Vintage Bikes. I'm too cheap to drop all that coin at once for a fancy modern bike so I've never played with them more than riding friend's here and there. I like to think that what worked in the past was good enough for some pretty famous racers at the time so it should be good enough for lil ol' me
"Oh I was so much older then, I'm Younger than that now"
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12-02-10, 10:32 AM
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Still 6mo from hitting 30 myself. Found the forum when I was... let's see, that was what about 5 years ago give or take now? Got into cycling to drop weight from my wedding (hit my 155lb weight the day before my flight to the wedding location, probably haven't seen it since), got into vintage bikes because they were cheap and I was still paying off a ring and a honeymoon on what was at the time a part-time job. First road bike was a $10 ebay purchase Schwinn Traveler, of course I immediately had to drop $50 into it to get it on the road. And I solely blame (or perhaps thank) Lotek for 90% of the C&V obsession since.
12-02-10, 10:41 AM
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35 here; started lurking on this foum at least five years ago, probably more. I started riding "old" bikes (older than me, anyway) in college, around age 19. I could get them for almost free from the campus maintenance crew, who would sell off the old bikes that people had put in dorm storage and forgotten about. First a Schwinn Suburban, and when that one was stolen, a '70s Peugeot. Later, in grad school, I needed another cheap bike, went to the SalvArm, and picked up another Peugeot. While I was in school, it was all about the cheapness. And now...it's still about the cheapness, but there's a whole lot more of it.
12-02-10, 10:41 AM
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I'm 31 and more of a roadie than a true C&Ver, though I do have two "retro classic" bicycles, or whatever you would like to call them. I got into road cycling around eight years ago and in that time cycling and bicycles have become a true passion.
The main reason I come to this subforum is that the atmosphere is friendly and full of enthusiasts and bicycle lovers. The road forums tend to get a bit too full of racer testosterone and weight weenies for my liking. You can ask anything here and simply get an answer, not flak or harassment or suggestions on what someone else thinks you should do.
I think that is a big testament to the C&Vers being a bit older, far more mature, and definitely happy with themselves and their lives than some other cyclists. The C&V lifestyle is like an addition to life, not a way to create your identity through what it says on your DT or how many gears your bike doesn't have.
Oh, and I think a classic thin-tubed steel frame bicycle is monumentally snazzier than some plastic bike with oddly shaped tubes
The main reason I come to this subforum is that the atmosphere is friendly and full of enthusiasts and bicycle lovers. The road forums tend to get a bit too full of racer testosterone and weight weenies for my liking. You can ask anything here and simply get an answer, not flak or harassment or suggestions on what someone else thinks you should do.
I think that is a big testament to the C&Vers being a bit older, far more mature, and definitely happy with themselves and their lives than some other cyclists. The C&V lifestyle is like an addition to life, not a way to create your identity through what it says on your DT or how many gears your bike doesn't have.
Oh, and I think a classic thin-tubed steel frame bicycle is monumentally snazzier than some plastic bike with oddly shaped tubes
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12-02-10, 10:43 AM
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I'm 26, and got into vintage steel for a couple reasons, most of which revolve around it being cheaper and more reliable than a lot of the lower/moderately priced offering you'll find in a bike shop.
...but, credit where it's due - I don't think I'd be where I am today (which is sitting at my laptop, browsing C&V) without the amazing contributions to the world of cycling of Sheldon Brown.
When I was looking to buy a bike for fitness/commuting/fun, I went to several bike shops in my area. It seemed like I could spend around $700 for a decent "beginner" bike made of aluminum and equipped with a very standardized kit of components. In discussing my options with salespeople, I felt enormously pressured to buy an aluminum frame at the top end of my budget, put a crapload on components and kit on my credit card, and get out the door.
I didn't like the atmosphere. I didn't like the way they dealt with my questions. I didn't like their prices. So, I decided to investigate my questions prior to buying, which inevitably led me to the twisted web that is sheldonbrown.com.
I must have spent hours upon hours over several months navigating his maze of pages...from the initial "Who IS this guy?" to the eventual "Wow, I want to be friends with this guy!!" (RIP, Sheldon) From his site I decided that I'd be better off buying something proven and "steel" verses something new and carbon which would lose 1/2 it's value the moment I left the store.
So I bought an old Raleigh at a Police auction and started fixing it up. Fixing it up led to C&V, and I've been hooked ever since.
..And while my love for steel has expanded to include the craftsmanship, the ride quality, and the durability, it may also have traces of a persnickety 'save-the-earth'/outdoorsy/hippie/fair-trade-coffee-drinking/socially-liberal nutjob snobbery. Call me self-righteous, but I like keeping old bikes out of the landfill. Especially when they're vastly more interesting than the stuff you'll find in most shops.
...but, credit where it's due - I don't think I'd be where I am today (which is sitting at my laptop, browsing C&V) without the amazing contributions to the world of cycling of Sheldon Brown.
When I was looking to buy a bike for fitness/commuting/fun, I went to several bike shops in my area. It seemed like I could spend around $700 for a decent "beginner" bike made of aluminum and equipped with a very standardized kit of components. In discussing my options with salespeople, I felt enormously pressured to buy an aluminum frame at the top end of my budget, put a crapload on components and kit on my credit card, and get out the door.
I didn't like the atmosphere. I didn't like the way they dealt with my questions. I didn't like their prices. So, I decided to investigate my questions prior to buying, which inevitably led me to the twisted web that is sheldonbrown.com.
I must have spent hours upon hours over several months navigating his maze of pages...from the initial "Who IS this guy?" to the eventual "Wow, I want to be friends with this guy!!" (RIP, Sheldon) From his site I decided that I'd be better off buying something proven and "steel" verses something new and carbon which would lose 1/2 it's value the moment I left the store.
So I bought an old Raleigh at a Police auction and started fixing it up. Fixing it up led to C&V, and I've been hooked ever since.
..And while my love for steel has expanded to include the craftsmanship, the ride quality, and the durability, it may also have traces of a persnickety 'save-the-earth'/outdoorsy/hippie/fair-trade-coffee-drinking/socially-liberal nutjob snobbery. Call me self-righteous, but I like keeping old bikes out of the landfill. Especially when they're vastly more interesting than the stuff you'll find in most shops.
12-02-10, 10:43 AM
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At 54, I am definitely not young, but I've only been cycling for a couple of years, so does that count? No?
Okay then, my children definitely should, though none of them post here they have all been posted about, even pictured:
14 y o son rides a Miyata 110 (an '87, much nicer than entry level), and hanging on the wall is the Fuji Allegro we built up together. We're looking for a lesser bike to fixify. He is turning into a thorough urban cyclist and has several friends who are into bike building.
17 y o daughter rides a gorgeous green Raleigh Ladies' Sports with Brooks and white Schwalbe tires. That replaced her Niko/Centurion mixte which was stolen.
19 y o daughter rides a near-mint '86 Miyata mixte which was the bike that, not quite two years ago, got me into this whole C&V thing. She says she frequently gets comments on her bike around campus, and the LBS she's been using (Haverford PA) likes it.
17 year old daughter is the one least interested in doing her own work, or riding for pleasure; she's very utilitarian in her approach to bikes though she certainly appreciates style. I showed her a pic of a Rivendell Betty Foy not long and she said it was nice but...'there are lots of great old bikes out there, why would you spend so much money on a new one? Besides, you should never buy retail!'
Okay then, my children definitely should, though none of them post here they have all been posted about, even pictured:
14 y o son rides a Miyata 110 (an '87, much nicer than entry level), and hanging on the wall is the Fuji Allegro we built up together. We're looking for a lesser bike to fixify. He is turning into a thorough urban cyclist and has several friends who are into bike building.
17 y o daughter rides a gorgeous green Raleigh Ladies' Sports with Brooks and white Schwalbe tires. That replaced her Niko/Centurion mixte which was stolen.
19 y o daughter rides a near-mint '86 Miyata mixte which was the bike that, not quite two years ago, got me into this whole C&V thing. She says she frequently gets comments on her bike around campus, and the LBS she's been using (Haverford PA) likes it.
17 year old daughter is the one least interested in doing her own work, or riding for pleasure; she's very utilitarian in her approach to bikes though she certainly appreciates style. I showed her a pic of a Rivendell Betty Foy not long and she said it was nice but...'there are lots of great old bikes out there, why would you spend so much money on a new one? Besides, you should never buy retail!'
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12-02-10, 10:43 AM
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Nice. On that note. From what is probably my favorite movie ever. Definitely the best rock concert film ever made. Check out seconds :35 through :45. Hilarious.
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12-02-10, 10:45 AM
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oh my god dude I've been listening to The Last Waltz on CD for the last 2 months solid 
I just picked up a copy of the DVD last week. Its AWESOME!
There's just so many amazing performances on that. Dr. John....Van Morrison...Joni Mitchell...Neil Young.
I just picked up a copy of the DVD last week. Its AWESOME!
There's just so many amazing performances on that. Dr. John....Van Morrison...Joni Mitchell...Neil Young.
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12-02-10, 10:50 AM
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I'm 32 and once I entered the real world, my budget for cycling was minimal. Historically I've ridden mountain bikes but then a friend of mine got a Cannondale road bike from a pawn shop for $30. My first time out on it I attacked the biggest hill in town and actually said out loud (despite nobody being around), "this thing is a dart". I then rode that same Cannondale on a 116 mile ride with two guys who sported the newest hottest lightest gear and that day I realized it wasn't about the bike. Learning people undervalue older road bikes, and appreciating a good deal I began looking (last January). Since that time I've welcomed two Fujis and a Panasonic into my home (have a bike rack in my bedroom). I previously thought the roads around my house (windy shoulderless Lake roads) were bad for cycling because there were no sidewalks...now riding those roads on classic steeds is my therapy.
Ancillary reasons include:
-the way I feel when I park a bike I paid $100 for next to many 10x that price and passersbys overlook those and are drawn to mine
-the way I feel when I ride a bike I paid $100 for with friends who's water bottle cages cost as much and outperform them
-the way I feel when I call on a blurry craigslist photo and they open the garage to reveal something better than expected (aka the thrill of the hunt)
-the hypocritical yet enjoyable feeling of spending hours working on my old boat and bikes, cleaning them meticulously before realizing I never once have waxed the new car I purchased
-this forum
Ancillary reasons include:
-the way I feel when I park a bike I paid $100 for next to many 10x that price and passersbys overlook those and are drawn to mine
-the way I feel when I ride a bike I paid $100 for with friends who's water bottle cages cost as much and outperform them
-the way I feel when I call on a blurry craigslist photo and they open the garage to reveal something better than expected (aka the thrill of the hunt)
-the hypocritical yet enjoyable feeling of spending hours working on my old boat and bikes, cleaning them meticulously before realizing I never once have waxed the new car I purchased
-this forum
12-02-10, 10:52 AM
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I'm 19 and I love C&V bikes! There's just a classic elegance about these machines.
I picked up cycling again after a mountain biking trip in 10th grade. I rode a vintage Yokota mountain bike with broken derailleurs, but I still had a blast. My first road bike was a Benotto (RIP) from the local co-op. I didn't know much about cycling or bikes at that time. Since then, thanks to forums like this one and websites like Sheldon's, I have learned a lot about vintage bicycles and I'm addicted.
Now, not only have my bike count risen considerably, I also have my own bicycle room in the basement where I can do repairs and maintenance. My friends think this is a really wierd hobby for a teenage girl, but I love it!
I picked up cycling again after a mountain biking trip in 10th grade. I rode a vintage Yokota mountain bike with broken derailleurs, but I still had a blast. My first road bike was a Benotto (RIP) from the local co-op. I didn't know much about cycling or bikes at that time. Since then, thanks to forums like this one and websites like Sheldon's, I have learned a lot about vintage bicycles and I'm addicted.
Now, not only have my bike count risen considerably, I also have my own bicycle room in the basement where I can do repairs and maintenance. My friends think this is a really wierd hobby for a teenage girl, but I love it!
12-02-10, 11:15 AM
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I'm 24, and I am sort of a collector. I am a collector who uses the intended collection items. I started with musical instruments, starting with a Gibson LG-1 that I picked up while I was still learning. Having some income, I was able to accumulate a fairly nice collection of musical instruments, all of which I play on some regular basis. While in college, I decided one day that I wanted to get back into biking a bit as I had done it obsessively until around age 14 then just one day, stopped. I started researching a bit for what I wanted and found bike forums. I first found the road forum and realized that was not the place for me. Being someone in the world of design, I quickly developed a real dislike for the current decals, paint schemes, and over all aesthetic of modern bikes. (another turn off was the pretentiousness of the whole forum, if it wasn't a brand new bike or a Cannondale CAAD9 someone had upgraded as their beginner bike, it apparently didn't matter).
Then, I found C&V. The people are more enjoyable, the cost... far better and how can one even begin to debate the aesthetics?
Then, I found C&V. The people are more enjoyable, the cost... far better and how can one even begin to debate the aesthetics?
12-02-10, 11:29 AM
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Been into bikes since I was 9 now I'm damn near 26, been through lots of 70's 80's road bikes and 3 speeds, I race on a modern road bike, have a nice mountain bike, BMX racer, a custom 70'-80's chopper, but only one vintage road bikes.
12-02-10, 11:30 AM
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I'm 56 ( geez when did that happen?) but truthfully don't feel a day over say 29 and a half.
I got into vintage bikes when I was 8 and my father brought home a used, rattle can english racer
(i.e. 3 speed) which was amazingly light after riding a ballooner previously.
I have an on again off again love affair with Italian Steel (by way of California) and a predilection for
obscure Dutch racing bikes.
I have to admit one of my favorite parts of this whole C&V thing is being an enabler ( your welcome Jon.)
I got into vintage bikes when I was 8 and my father brought home a used, rattle can english racer
(i.e. 3 speed) which was amazingly light after riding a ballooner previously.
I have an on again off again love affair with Italian Steel (by way of California) and a predilection for
obscure Dutch racing bikes.
I have to admit one of my favorite parts of this whole C&V thing is being an enabler ( your welcome Jon.)
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I spent most of my 20s living in the SF Bay area, playing volleyball, going to grad school, wrenching for a living, buying old Raleigh 3-speeds at San Jose flea markets and selling them in front of my house for $40-$60. Yup, I was an early flipper.
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12-02-10, 11:49 AM
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You guys make me feel old. Stop posting threads like this.
Seriously, welcome. Glad you guys are here.
I'm a few months away from the high end of my family life expectancy.
In general, this board is one of the few places on the internet I've ever found where people seek knowledge, as opposed to pretending they have it (and then loudly insisting they actually do have it). I think that is why it is welcoming, and it always has been from the first.
Seriously, welcome. Glad you guys are here.
I'm a few months away from the high end of my family life expectancy.
In general, this board is one of the few places on the internet I've ever found where people seek knowledge, as opposed to pretending they have it (and then loudly insisting they actually do have it). I think that is why it is welcoming, and it always has been from the first.
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12-02-10, 11:50 AM
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I'm 24, and I am sort of a collector. I am a collector who uses the intended collection items. I started with musical instruments, starting with a Gibson LG-1 that I picked up while I was still learning. Having some income, I was able to accumulate a fairly nice collection of musical instruments, all of which I play on some regular basis....
12-02-10, 12:29 PM
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53 here. No longer young and foolish, not yet old and in the way. I guess that makes me middle aged, foolish and in the way. 
What is now classic steel was the cutting-edge drool-worthy stuff of my ill-spent youth. I fell in love with both the feel and the look. I still have that love. Most aluminum and CF simply don't have the right proportions, to my eye. Most titanium does, but it's 'spensive. But if all steel frames fell of the Earth tomorrow, I'd be Mr. Titanium the day after.
Never got into mountain bikes - the look evolved from dorky to techno-chic, and I never could get past that. Plus, I like going fast -- okay, I like the illusion of going fast
-- and I don't like crashing, so endless 4mph slogs through mud and sand punctuated by occasional endos never appealed to me.
To me, the ultimate combination is classic lugged steel (pretty much high-end - I'm not interested in owning an International or a UO-8) married mostly to modern components (The wide-range triple crankset is about the greatest invention since sliced bread). I get the best of old and new - the look and ride of steel that I love so dearly and the performance of better brakes and more gear-varied drivetrains.
As for the C&V forum, I'm only hear for the snacks.
What is now classic steel was the cutting-edge drool-worthy stuff of my ill-spent youth. I fell in love with both the feel and the look. I still have that love. Most aluminum and CF simply don't have the right proportions, to my eye. Most titanium does, but it's 'spensive. But if all steel frames fell of the Earth tomorrow, I'd be Mr. Titanium the day after.
Never got into mountain bikes - the look evolved from dorky to techno-chic, and I never could get past that. Plus, I like going fast -- okay, I like the illusion of going fast
-- and I don't like crashing, so endless 4mph slogs through mud and sand punctuated by occasional endos never appealed to me. To me, the ultimate combination is classic lugged steel (pretty much high-end - I'm not interested in owning an International or a UO-8) married mostly to modern components (The wide-range triple crankset is about the greatest invention since sliced bread). I get the best of old and new - the look and ride of steel that I love so dearly and the performance of better brakes and more gear-varied drivetrains.
As for the C&V forum, I'm only hear for the snacks.
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12-02-10, 12:35 PM
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34, so maybe I still fit into the young category. I'll be doing the Hell's Gate Hundred in Death Valley on my 35th birthday. Hope I live through it.
I grew up on bikes. The new steeds of the day were steel and lugged. Always liked them. No real reason to stop.
I grew up on bikes. The new steeds of the day were steel and lugged. Always liked them. No real reason to stop.
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12-02-10, 12:54 PM
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I'm a sophomore in high school.
When I got into the sport of cycling, it was made clear to me that it was never about the bike but about the rider. So, I've never really judged what type of frame material is best, and I've grown to like C&V because you guys are the most entertaining, generous, and kind people on this forum.
When I got into the sport of cycling, it was made clear to me that it was never about the bike but about the rider. So, I've never really judged what type of frame material is best, and I've grown to like C&V because you guys are the most entertaining, generous, and kind people on this forum.
