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Yet another Eddy Merckx 7-11 vintage bike-just purchased today!!!

Old 12-20-10, 08:54 AM
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well that would be great. i know you know (?) your merckx teams bikes so im wondering too. that andy hampsten name plate could have been put there for looks. i did look on my bb and a few inscriptions are.....7TT and the serial number 1214 so curious to see what happens. if its not andys bike, i wonder if i should take off the name plate????
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Joe...I'll PM you contact info later today. I went through this with my Motorola, so I have a pretty good list of references for you.

I did a LOT of researching when I got my Bauer and I've never seen a 7-11 or Motorola Team bike with your features, so I'd be pretty surprised if it's real.
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I don't think so...Andy rode one like that and if it's decorative, it was probably applied by Merckx. I'd leave it as is. Besides...it COULD be real!
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you could always ask Andy like this guy did:

https://bikingbrady.blogspot.com/2008...dy-merckx.html

sure looks to be his size:

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2BzInP4y31...h/IMG_2769.JPG

but no number plate hanger. Who knows.

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wow, Andy and his brother actually build some cool bikes!

https://www.hampsten.com/
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It could be a training bike. I have a 7-11 MURRAY team bike that someone removed the # hangar on in order to use a frame pump

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Joe,

Check out DiabloScott's blog entries for 7-11 bikes.

If you scroll down near the end of the page he states:

"From the same catalogue as above, the 1990 line also included a "Team" model that had the "7-Eleven Team sticker - I had previously thought that the sticker was only for actual team issue bikes."

Also, Tears For Gears has complete scans of the 1990 Merckx catalog referenced by DiabloScott. Here is the specific catalog page regarding the Team 7-11 bicycle:



Still, it would be interesting to know what the factory has to say.

On Edit:

I just noticed a difference between your bike and the catalog photo: the placement of the internal cable routing braze-ons. Catalog photo has both on top of the top tube. Yours has the front braze-on placed to the lower left. Hmmm....

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That looks absolutely mint!

If the other two bikes were in the same nick, $3k sounds like a bit of a steal...
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Originally Posted by retrofit View Post
Joe,

Check out DiabloScott's blog entries for 7-11 bikes.

If you scroll down near the end of the page he states:

"From the same catalogue as above, the 1990 line also included a "Team" model that had the "7-Eleven Team sticker - I had previously thought that the sticker was only for actual team issue bikes."
At one time I held that only the official team bikes had the 7-Eleven sticker... then Tears for Gears linked me to that catalogue page and I retracted my statements.

More recently I contended that the official team bikes all had the number hanger instead of a pump peg, but now I doubt that as well. If you look at the Winning piece on Dag Otto's bike you'll see what appears to be lack of a number hanger in one photo, and in another photo a number attached in a way that you wouldn't expect if there were a number hanger. https://diabloscott.blogspot.com/2000...t_archive.html

I'm inclined to think Joe's bike is the real deal because 1) the serial number doesn't correspond to the production bikes that Jeremy has numbers for LINK, and 2) the Hampsten decal is just too good.

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Ho!

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a bit of a steal...
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott View Post
At one time I held that only the official team bikes had the 7-Eleven sticker... then Tears for Gears linked me to that catalogue page and I retracted my statements.

More recently I contended that the official team bikes all had the number hanger instead of a pump peg, but now I doubt that as well. If you look at the Winning piece on Dag Otto's bike you'll see what appears to be lack of a number hanger in one photo, and in another photo a number attached in a way that you wouldn't expect if there were a number hanger. https://diabloscott.blogspot.com/2000...t_archive.html

I'm inclined to think Joe's bike is the real deal because 1) the serial number doesn't correspond to the production bikes that Jeremy has numbers for LINK, and 2) the Hampsten decal is just too good.
I took a closer look at the bikes on 1989 Winning Magazine cover and the pages within and these bike all have the same front internal cable routing as Joe's -- lower left -- and not on the top of the top tube as depicted in the catalog models. Perhaps the real deal as DiabloScott says.

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There is another one on Ebay now, with the same cable routing.

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...#ht_534wt_1139

BTW,To the OP: You have a beautiful bike, one that many ,many people on here wish to own(i'm sure). Great find, and take care of it.

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What a great find, congrats. Seems like we may have our own version CSI C&V.
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It smelled right to me, which is why I told our friend Joe to go get it.
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I would listen to Scott and Picchio more than me...both are more knowledgable than me on the topic. I am very interested in finding out if it's real. Still...it's an AWESOME bike either way.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake View Post
I would listen to Scott and Picchio more than me...both are more knowledgable than me on the topic. I am very interested in finding out if it's real. Still...it's an AWESOME bike either way.
The nice thing is, Joe didn't have to pay a premium for that Hampsten decal, so he wins either way. Makes it easy to give purchase advice.
Interesting that the seller didn't even make an issue about the decal, and apparently didn't care that much about it. Which at least argues against a scam.
And I will say, I know a fair amount about the Murray-Serottas, and a tad less about the Huffy-Serottas, but there are folks way ahead of me regarding the Merckx 7-Eleven bikes, though I'd love to own one. OTOH, I have developed a pretty good nose for stuff.

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Originally Posted by Picchio Special View Post
The nice thing is, Joe didn't have to pay a premium for that Hampsten decal, so he wins either way. Makes it easy to give purchase advice.
Completely agree. With or without that decal, the bike was worth more than the asking price...A LOT MORE! It's also a beauty...how often do you find ones that perfect?!?

I know a bit about the Motorola Team bikes and less about the 7-11's. I got a LOT of advice, all of which was proved to be accurate, from Jeremy at Tears for Gears. I do know that the Team bikes have odd serial numbers, so that definitely points it in that direction. I've never seen a Team Merckx with a pump peg, but that doesn't mean they didn't exist.

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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake View Post
I do know that the Team bikes have odd serial numbers, so that definitely points it in that direction.
There was an old thread in here somewhere that quoted an e-mail from the Merckx folks confirming a serial number to a custom frame for a specific 7-Eleven rider... that's about all I remember. I'll search for it later if no one finds it before then... would be an interesting comparison.
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Scott...I had the same experience with my Motorola Merckx. It had a goofy serial number, Jeremy immediately flagged it as genuine...and the Merckx Co. confirmed. Jeremy even advised it was Reynolds 753 from the lugs.

Email Chain:

Dear Sir,

As we only provided frames to the Motorola team, I cannot tell you much about the build up and components.
Try to find some old pictures of the team an dyou might find more information.
On the frame, it was made in july/august 1990 for Steve Bauer.
It had a seatube cc 53, toptube cc 56, setback 15 and headtube 11.7.

Kr’s,


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Hello,

I was hoping you could provide me with more info on a Merckx I just acquired. It's a TSX Steve Bauer Motorola, and I was hoping you could tell me more about it, like when it was made...where it was raced...what would the original components have been. It currently has a mix of c-record, record and chorus. The serial number seems to be c2210. This sure looks like the real deal to me, but I'd love confirmation.

Thanks much,
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott View Post
There was an old thread in here somewhere that quoted an e-mail from the Merckx folks confirming a serial number to a custom frame for a specific 7-Eleven rider... that's about all I remember. I'll search for it later if no one finds it before then... would be an interesting comparison.
This one, which is what led me to think it may be a real team bike.

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ge-eddy-merckx
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I apologize if this is a hijack, but would you ascribe greater value to a genuine team bike with provenance? Obviously something like a Lemond used in a win has greater value, but for just a random team bike from non-tour winners, I'm not sure it really matters much. I also think the bikes were often ridden a LOT harder...which might negatively impact value. Speaking for myself, I find mine far more interesting because of what it is and who rode it. I do have my doubts if that translates to greater market value.
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Originally Posted by Old Fat Guy View Post
This one, which is what led me to think it may be a real team bike.

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ge-eddy-merckx
Good! But actually I was thinking of this one:
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...1-Team-Edition

Certified to be custom for Tommy Matush, Team 7-Eleven... and it has a number hanger. Originally had the Tommy Matush decal but the new owner had it repainted.

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Originally Posted by DiabloScott View Post
Good! But actually I was thinking of this one:
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...1-Team-Edition

Certified to be custom for Tommy Matush, Team 7-Eleven... and it has a number hanger. Originally had the Tommy Matush decal but the new owner had it repainted.
I remember that thread, locked through one spoke when he found it.
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Wow. i want to thank all of you much much much!! you guys are the best. i emailed merckx factory(thanks again mr snake) so im anxiously waiting. really appreciate all the help you all have been. as ive told konaaron, no matter what, i love the bike to pieces and it rides really great!!! if it happens to be hampstens extra or something i will love it more than ever-i may even sleep with it tonight! my girlfriend can sleep in the garage
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Originally Posted by joe englert View Post
Wow. i want to thank all of you much much much!! you guys are the best. i emailed merckx factory(thanks again mr snake) so im anxiously waiting. really appreciate all the help you all have been. as ive told konaaron, no matter what, i love the bike to pieces and it rides really great!!! if it happens to be hampstens extra or something i will love it more than ever-i may even sleep with it tonight! my girlfriend can sleep in the garage
Joe, tell me you didn't stop taking the medication again.
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It had a seatube cc 53, toptube cc 56, setback 15 and headtube 11.7.
setback? Referring to the specified seat post?
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ok well, i didnt hear back for merckx yet, however i did notice that on the referral thread mentioned by ofg that one guy names slurpee (must be team 7-11 expert) said that the pro team bikes had the serial number preceeded by the letters a or b. i just went out to look at mine again and upon closer exam. the serial number has a c on top of the 1214. so i think that means mine is not a true team bike? oh well, i think ill keep the hampsten sticker on it anyway. im guessing that public production bikes had another letter such as "c" and then the serial number
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