BlueDevil63 

I've been collecting pretty aggressively since I retired and have been trying to get some top quality pictures of my collection for quite some time. It is amazing how long it takes me to get good pictures. I really know very little about photography but I am learning. This last week I spent a lot of time taking photos so unless someone objects I am going to do a series of threads on some of the bikes in my collection. Most have been restored by me to at least some degree and some were built from framesets. I hope you like. More pictures on my website, link is in signature.

Next is my 1983 Ciocc San Cristobal. This is a Ten Speed Drive Ciocc with the Rasta (red, gold, black and green, plus white I guess so you also get tricolore) color scheme. It is pretty heavily pantographed. I bought it as a complete bike but it was fairly rough. Lots of grime and corrosion on chrome, heavily weathered paint and a fair number of scratches. I stripped to frame, frame saved it, polished chrome and rubbed out weathered paint. I decided to touch up the worst scraped but couldn't really a good color match on this deep dark blue purple color so I am still not really happy with that. I also redid all the paint in the pantographing, and sourced and installed Ciocc pantographed brake calipers and levers. I also serviced everything like I do with all bikes I buy (well not the Gios) and replaced cables and housing. Otherwise all is original except the brakes (which I swapped with my 84 Ciocc). The color scheme is kind of wild but I like it. All in all it turned out well but it is a bit too big for me at 61cm. I could make it fit better with a shorter stem but I don't want to replace the pantographed stem. We'll see.

This bike doesn't photograph against the black background so well but the white background shows dirt so easily it is a pain to work with in my dirty garage.

jet sanchEz

Beauty!

What is the difference between the San Cristobal and the '84 Designer Ciocc?

BlueDevil63 

I think the teardrop lugs are the big difference. Look at pics of shifters and seat post. The lugs taper to a very thin tear drop end. Very cool.

Picchio Special

The San Cristobal was the original model to come into the U.S. - named for the success of one of Pelizzoli's bikes in the Venezuela World Championship road race in 1977, in the under-23 category (courtesy of Claudio Corti). They had very skinny, pressed lugs - like the ones on the OP's bike. Very cool, distinctive, and took extra care to braze up properly because they're so narrow. The Mockba 80, named for Ciocc's participation in the '80 Moscow Olympics, also (at least in a number of examples I've seen) had similar lugs. The Designer '84's I've seen, while nice frames, have pretty run-of-the-mill investment cast short-point lugs that lack the cutouts of the San Cristobal lugs, and also lack the trick, funky, skinny teardrop-point lugs the OP's bike has. I think the San Cristobals and Mockba 80's are kind of special - certainly not like every other Italian frame of the period; the Designer '84's, while very nice in their own right and doubtless owning the ride properties of their predecessors, don't stand out from the crowd to nearly the same extent, at least as far as construction and design.

-holiday76

that thing is great! thanks for the pics

thirdgenbird

love the seatpost and stem!

forgive the young guy... did manufacturers pantograph components and install them OEM or was this something that 3rd parties did and sell as kits?

gridplan

I don't know where the World 77 falls in their range of models, but it has the same pointed lugs, color scheme and decals as the OP's bike, with only minor differences in the chrome. It is easily my favorite vintage bike to ride.

unworthy1

This pantograph engraving on components was generally not done by the component manufacturers nor by the frame builders: it was farmed out to an engraving shop who made and kept the "master" templates for (whatever) the logo and engraved parts to order. Citoyen du Monde has first-hand knowledge of this so search his postings if you need more.

J T CUNNINGHAM

The pics are good, the black background is good, the bike is great.

Regards,
J T

ftwelder

Beautiful bike and pics. I have taken thousands of pics and just a couple of good ones.

poprad

You're well on your way to a Ray Dobbins-esque reputation with your recent posts! Nice shooting and I think the black makes a nice background for this bike. Keep them coming!

Great website too, BTW.