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4Rings6Stars 01-02-11 03:03 PM

Threaded Headset issue
 
I recently purchased a used Shimano 600 (HP6500) cartridge bearing headset from a forum member and it appears to have included the incorrect size fork crown race. Very excited to complete this build (Cannondale I repainted for my girlfriend for x-mas) but this has brought me to a screeching halt.

I pulled a few other forks from my different bikes to try and their races also seemed to be too small for this headset. I haven't ever run into this issue and it seems simple but is making me feel pretty dumb.

Anybody know what crown race I need for the 600 headset?

Here is the headset for reference.
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/w...h_IMG_1320.jpg

And the catalog page.
http://techdocs.shimano.com/media/te...9830609006.pdf

nlerner 01-02-11 03:08 PM

Alex, that catalog page shows two crown race options: 26.4 and 27.0mm (part #7). Sounds like you got the smaller and need the larger. I have some 27.0mm races in the parts drawer, but I don't know if they'd fit that particular headset.

Neal

ScottRyder 01-02-11 03:10 PM

JIS vs. ISO perhaps?

Scott

Capecodder 01-02-11 03:13 PM

ISO=26.4mm JIS=27.0mm you need a 27.0mm crown race.

Ex Pres 01-02-11 03:15 PM

Are you saying the race appears too small for the headset, or that the race is too small for the fork crown?

4Rings6Stars 01-02-11 03:48 PM

Sorry to clarify. It fits the fork perfectly but the od is too large and the bearing cartridge doesn't seat down onto it.

ColonelJLloyd 01-02-11 03:56 PM

It would seem your only solution is a donor headset because that race has to be just right for the cartridge bearing to seat properly. You'll be better off just using a decent Tange or equivalent headset. You could always sell what's left of the 600 headset as parts.

Ex Pres 01-02-11 05:24 PM

Are you sure it's the race and the PO didn't swap out to an incorrect bearing?

4Rings6Stars 01-02-11 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by Ex Pres (Post 12016521)
Are you sure it's the race and the PO didn't swap out to an incorrect bearing?

Hard to tell. The two I have are identical and fit the cups perfectly but like I said I have limited experience swapping/removing headsets and this is my first time running into any sort of a compatibility issue.

4Rings6Stars 01-03-11 09:26 PM

Update. I brought the headset to my LBS to no avail. They told me since the headset is old tech. and no longer made, they couldn't help me find a proper race. I asked if they had any spares or anything they could try and they said no. Time to find a new LBS, this is the last straw from this place but its a shame because it was in walking distance. Guess I'll be driving/riding out to Harris from now on.

I found out that the 105 race was the same so I bought a NOS 105 headset and harvested its race. Now I have the NOS 105 cartridge headset with no race so the search continues for that race. Though this will be for a future build so the search is much less urgent.

If anybody comes up with a source, I'm all ears :)

illwafer 01-03-11 10:52 PM


Originally Posted by 4Rings6Stars (Post 12023371)
Update. I brought the headset to my LBS to no avail. They told me since the headset is old tech. and no longer made, they couldn't help me find a proper race. I asked if they had any spares or anything they could try and they said no.

figures.


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