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90's Stephen Roche Frame: unusual Columbus EL OS tube treatment

Old 01-05-11, 07:37 AM
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90's Stephen Roche Frame: unusual Columbus EL OS tube treatment

I wondered if anyone has seen EL OS tubes treated in this way?

26.8mm seat tube taken down to an elipse x-section where it joins the BB and
larger down tube tapered to an elipse x-section at the BB. The cross-bar and other ends of the tubes are all round in X-section.

It reminds me of MAX but the tubing is stickered EL OS and the weights are as follows:

Frame: 1815g
EL Unicrown Fork: 705g
Dropouts are near vertical Tecnociclo

Frame is a NOS "Stephen Roche" with "Cork" painted on the seat tube-does anyone know who built this frame as I'm led to believe that SR weren't frame builders?

The oldest info I can find on Google/ archived web pages on SR bikes dates back to 2000, nothing before and I am guessing this frame is mid 1990's?

Any insights appreciated.
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The mid 90's EL OS was available with an optional, bigger, over sized down tube and maybe chainstays as well. I had a Crammeroti with this tubeset and it too was ovalized at the BB lugs. It was a very stiff frameset. My seat tube took a 27.2 post.
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I agree that it reminds me of MAX. I thought Columbus MAX was the tubing that had the oval shaped ends, but I suppose this could be a case of the wrong decals, or more likely as clubman says it's just a later version of EL than is listed in the 1989 chart below:
https://www.equusbicycle.com/bike/col...umbuschart.htm

I remember a Colnago in the late 80s or early 90s that had similar tubing. I would bet that this frame is somewhere between 1989 and mid 90s. I vaguely remember Roche frames, but maybe I'm just thinking that after his 1987 triple crown win of course somebody would be selling bikes with his name on the tubes...
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Thanks for the replies: It's definitely EL OS by the weight. Also the tubes, other than the flattened ends are the same diameter as a Tommasini EL OS frame I have. The name "Roche" is so prominent that it must be the brand under which the bike was sold and I am guessing "Cork" is the model. The BB is Italian threaded, which reinforces my belief it's made by an Italian manufacturer-but which?
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Stephen Roche Bike Build completed

The guys at Rourkes in Stoke built the frame up for me with the parts I supplied: Ultegra SL and Dura Ace set.
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I am not sure just how I missed this thread. the frame and now the bike is very pretty.

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Really nice quality bike. Not one you'd see very often for sure. I wish they just painted the frame with a single color though, instead of the fade paintjob, but at least they did not use garish "Maimi Vice" colors. I really really like the late OS tubing development on steel bikes in the late 80's and early 90's much better than all the aluminum frames coming out back then. That's why one of my dream bikes is a Masi Volumetrica from the 80's. It's good to know that there are other OS tubed bikes that were made back then. Specially one with Stephen Roche's name on it. A Pro I really admired when he rode and won for Peugeot in the TDF.
I don't remember, but did Masi use the same oversized Columbus tubing for their mid 80's 3V Volumetrica, or did they have proprietary tubing just made for them?

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Originally Posted by Chombi
. I really really like the late OS tubing development on steel bikes in the late 80's and early 90's much better than all the aluminum frames coming out back then.
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OH I could not agree more! the things they were doing with steel back then were great! if the industry had not shoved cheaper to make Aluminium and Carbon fiber bikes on the consumer we could have had some really nice steel stuff. the NivaChrome steel Columbus came up with for MAX and EL was great and light


Stephen Roache is sort of an odd foot note in cycling. he was a great cyclist but no one ever mentions him these days even though he was the last Triple Crown winner. I guess since trek never used and abused him he got no respect
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They mention him all the time on Versus as his son is a successful cyclist for Team Ag2r. Nicholas Roche.
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I have a Univega Ultraleggera with OS tubing and it is an exceptional bike. The bikes in this thread look great
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Thanks for your comments. Interesting that despite postings on several sites and much searching I can't find another frame like it referenced anywhere. It's nice to ride something unique!
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Would like to see a pic of it if you have one? I think EL OS is sublime!
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Originally Posted by bbattle
They mention him all the time on Versus as his son is a successful cyclist for Team Ag2r. Nicholas Roche.

I have heard Nicholas mentioned but in the times I have been watching the tour I have not heard Stephen mentioned
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll
I have heard Nicholas mentioned but in the times I have been watching the tour I have not heard Stephen mentioned
Anyone interested in Stephen Roche Bikes and Frames will hopefully find this a useful resource which I have created. It came about after I tried to find out who had manufactured a Stephen Roche Columbus EL OS frame I purchased. I realised that there was no existing online resource, all the more surprising given his high profile and the quality of the frames: so here's the start: 9 steel frames from the 1990's with pics. If you have further info/ pics to add -please do/get in touch!
https://stephenrochebikes.wordpress.com/
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