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1986 Miyata Six Ten

Old 01-06-11, 03:02 PM
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1986 Miyata Six Ten

I made a similar post in the touring section, but I thought you guys at the C&V forum would enjoy this find.


I had been scouring craigslist for an older touring bike for the last few months. Checking it everyday, multiple times a day. I wanted an older 80's steel touring bike - Miyata 610, 1000, Trek 520,620,720 something of the sort. The search was consuming me, I'm sure some of you know how that is. Preferably I wanted it with bar end shifters and all the braze-ons for around $300. I know that may have been a tall order for $300, but that is all I had to work with. After countless hours on craigslist I finally saw a Miyata 610 that had all the braze-ons I wanted minus the bar end shifters and it also had 700c wheels for $295.

I called the guy up right away, it was about 9am he said it was ready to ride so I told him SOLD. Made my way about an hour and a half away to get the bike. Patience is a virtue.

So here are the pictures of my spoils:





Came with everything minus the brooks, toe clips and the white bottle cage. Those were all mine I added. Now I don't know if $300 was a steal for the bike, but it sure felt like one!

The paint is pristine, untouched pictures don't do it justice. I have been itching to ride it so bad, I have taken it on a few small rides, but I want to do a tune up make sure everything is in order before I take it on a longer one. Re-grease the hubs, clean the chain, true the wheels etc.

After some research on the internet I found out it is a 1986. One of the few years to get the triple butted Cr-Mo tubing and 700c wheels.

Just felt like sharing my find with the community and if anyone has owned a Miyata 610 before hopefully they can drop some knowledge about the bike because I would love to know more about it.

Once again, thank you to the whole BF community.
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Old 01-06-11, 03:14 PM
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Congrats! That's a really nice 610. I just picked one up early this week too. Everything is the same except for the condition.
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Old 01-06-11, 03:17 PM
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I sold a green one earlier this year. Nice bike. Congrats!


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Old 01-06-11, 03:25 PM
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Great find at a nice price. Enjoy
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Old 01-06-11, 04:09 PM
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Solid! For that condition, $300 is a fair deal indeed. Here's one my friend built up - they're fantastic bikes (Miyata is near the top on my favorite Japanese bike company list )

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Old 01-06-11, 05:19 PM
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i'm jealous

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Old 01-06-11, 07:10 PM
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Very nice. I've got the exact same bike. I even added bar-end shifters to it.
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Old 01-06-11, 08:10 PM
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Really nice bike. Your Brooks looks right at home there too.
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Old 01-06-11, 08:18 PM
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That bike is sweet. I too like Miyata's and own a 87 Miyata Team I bought new, and then bought a 88 Miyata 712 used a several of years ago for $100 that was in excellent condition. They ride great. Both of mine have the splined tubing, not sure if your 610 does or not, I seemed to recall that they did but I could be wrong. You have whats known as a sport touring bike, the wheelbase is not as long as a true touring bike but longer then a road race bike...it's wheelbase is in between those. A lot of touring bikes back then where made with sport frames and they worked great for even heavy loaded touring; in fact some people liked them better then the long wheelbase touring bikes because the handling was quicker. Both of my touring bikes have sport geometry because that's the way I wanted them to be.
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Old 01-06-11, 08:29 PM
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I had a Six Ten that size and absolutely loved it, but it was just too big for me. I then got a Six Fifteen that is the next size smaller, and it was just a bit too small! They are indeed fantastic bikes and I think you scored big time. That bike is beautiful and will serve you well. Looks great with the Brooks.

I do have a Miyata 914 that fits great and love it.
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Very nice find! I had a 84 that was too small and I still loved it. I hope to find one my size about the same year.

Do my eyes deceive or does that bike have a Bio pace half step triple?
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Old 01-07-11, 08:32 AM
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Nice bike. You and I were on the same quest. Looks like you quest came to an end before mine, though. I've had a few close-but-no-cigar moments, but haven't found the perfect bike... yet.
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Old 01-07-11, 09:13 AM
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I too have the exact same bike. Mine is all original right down to the tires. Yours is in remarkable shape. Enjoy!
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Old 01-07-11, 03:00 PM
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Thank you for all the great replies everyone!

Originally Posted by liquefied View Post
Very nice. I've got the exact same bike. I even added bar-end shifters to it.
I was really considering this. How do you like it? More so than the down-tube shifters? Was it hard to change them from down-tube to bar end shifters? What kind of bar-ends did you use? Your miyata is an 18 speed aswell? I really don't know much about bikes just grasping every bit of knowledge I can from these forums.

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Do my eyes deceive or does that bike have a Bio pace half step triple?
Shimano Biopace 50 is what it says. Is it sought after or whats the story behind that?

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I too have the exact same bike. Mine is all original right down to the tires. Yours is in remarkable shape. Enjoy!
Beautiful bike! What kind of rack do you have on yours? Was it hard to attach?
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Old 01-07-11, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by The_Herb View Post
I was really considering this. How do you like it? More so than the down-tube shifters? Was it hard to change them from down-tube to bar end shifters? What kind of bar-ends did you use? Your miyata is an 18 speed aswell? I really don't know much about bikes just grasping every bit of knowledge I can from these forums.
Haha, the guys on this forum are a blast. I've learned (and am still learning) so much from them. It's not difficult to change from bar-end to downtube shifters - you'll just need a pair of bar-end shifters, a pair of down tube cable stops, and cable housing (and probably new shifter cables). Your bars should already be large enough to accept them. There's a lot of good tutorials on installing these, and it's really not difficult .

EDIT :: here ya go, picture tutorial! https://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-...hifter-service

Shimano Biopace 50 is what it says. Is it sought after or whats the story behind that?
I think we're more just surprised - granny half-step gearing meant the front chainrings had two large chainrings that were very close in tooth count + a small "granny" gear which you could get into for tough climbs. It was an older configuration of chainrings, and I'm tickled to see Biopace (which I thought came later than granny half-step, or in any case, didn't often come in half-step gearings) on there as well.

As for Biopace, it's is an ovaloid (noncircular) chainring that's designed to put less stress on the knees/be a bit more efficient. They tend to look funny, but I've definitely noticed them making a difference in my pedaling cadence (you may or may not notice depending on your pedaling style).

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Jealous.
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Old 01-07-11, 04:52 PM
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Thank you very much dashuaigeh!
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How do you like it? More so than the down-tube shifters? Was it hard to change them from down-tube to bar end shifters?
Bar ends > Down tube > Stem

Pretty easy to swap out.

In my opinion.

I also prefer the aero brake levers and the housing all neatly run under the tape. I don't prefer the buggy look of cables coming up out of the non-aero levers.

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Actually I prefer the buggy look of the cables coming out of the non-aero levers...not sure why though!
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Beautiful bike! What kind of rack do you have on yours? Was it hard to attach?
Thanks The_Herb.

The rack is the OEM that came with the bike. Might be kinda hard to find one, but a silver Blackburn would look right at home as well.
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Originally Posted by The_Herb View Post

Shimano Biopace 50 is what it says. Is it sought after or whats the story behind that?






I think we're more just surprised - granny half-step gearing meant the front chainrings had two large chainrings that were very close in tooth count + a small "granny" gear which you could get into for tough climbs. It was an older configuration of chainrings, and I'm tickled to see Biopace (which I thought came later than granny half-step, or in any case, didn't often come in half-step gearings) on there as well.

As for Biopace, it's is an ovaloid (noncircular) chainring that's designed to put less stress on the knees/be a bit more efficient. They tend to look funny, but I've definitely noticed them making a difference in my pedaling cadence (you may or may not notice depending on your pedaling style).
Sort of rare to see a half step biopace. Its a niche piece that has a bit of a cult following. I'm betting the front derailleur also says "Half step" on it somewhere Might be on the back side of the guide.

There is a few threads about it here. Basically the goal is to not repeat gears. Ideally Shifting between the big and medium rings is mathematically half the gearing change of a shift of the rear derailleur. "Half a step"

This is mostly favored for long distance riding in relatively flat terrain. You would find a gear you were comfortable with the cadence of when on the large ring. If you hit a slight hill you would drop off the big ring, sort of like dropping out of overdrive. As your shifting skill improves you will learn to do double shifts where you shift the front and rear derailleurs simultaneously.

More gear stuff here.
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/gear-theory.html
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Thank you Grim.

I am looking at this rack and wondering if it will fit on my bike?

https://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Jim-Blac...item4155b8d127

Says it was made for 1980's steel touring bikes so I figured it should?
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Old 01-09-11, 08:21 AM
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Yep that should fit. Same one I have on my Fuji. You may need to tweak the bars that attach to the seat stay a little but otherwise it should just about fall on it.
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Yep that should fit. Same one I have on my Fuji. You may need to tweak the bars that attach to the seat stay a little but otherwise it should just about fall on it.
I agree, should fit with some gentle bending. Nice price right now.
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Six tens are great... this mid-80s era represents the pinnacle of Japanese production touring bikes. My wife loves her 610.


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