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Vonruden 11-29-20 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by Bianchigirll (Post 21810514)
I am pretty sure it is a repaint. For an upper end frame I would expect to see something on the stay cap. That heavy grommet on the brake. bridge seems odd too. Is there anything on the dropouts? Is there a B on the lug?

drops

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...88f934d11.jpeg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...64bd013f1.jpeg
only B is on the HT/DT lug

Bianchigirll 11-29-20 10:58 AM

I think you have an '88 Formula 2 frameset. I looked at the pics of the '88 Trofeo I used to have it has a similar grommet on the brake bridge. Serial format is similar. That is an odd paint scheme with only the fork and HT being painted black though

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...56d60c126e.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...86a7dfda38.jpg

Monzeglio 11-29-20 12:15 PM

Unusual Bianchi fork engraving
 
[QUOTE=T-Mar;21810359]The subject bicycle is a 1982 European market model. It's definitely not a Specialissima, which would have used Campagnolo dropouts during this era. It's almost certainly mid-range, likely one of the many Rekord variants, The seat post diameter should give us an indicator of the tubeset, which I suspect is tretubi SL/SP at best, or possibly Aelle or even a Falck set.[/QUOTE

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f706cc9af.jpeg

Here's a photo of the “Specialissima” - it has the name sticker but I wasn’t convinced that was 100% definite, hence my enquiry.
It doesn’t have a tubing ID sticker.
I’m still curious about the engraved ‘S’ on the forks!

B_Fung 12-19-20 11:54 PM

Hello,

First time poster. I just picked this up and wanted to know more about it. Serial # WBK255484T. More specifically the dimensions and the fork that came with the bike

Thanks in advance!

Bianchigirll 12-20-20 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by B_Fung (Post 21840659)
Hello,

First time poster. I just picked this up and wanted to know more about it. Serial # WBK255484T. More specifically the dimensions and the fork that came with the bike

Thanks in advance!

Good Morning and welcome to the forums. Can you tell us more about your Bianchi? Is it a road bike or a mountain bike? Does it have a model name on the tube across the top of the frame? Do any of the parts on it have names on them like Simplex, Modolo, DiaCompe?

I suspect it is one of the many fabulous Bianchi bikes built in Japan or Taiwan. OH what country are you and the bike in?

B_Fung 12-20-20 09:07 AM

Bianchi RC Late model
 

Originally Posted by Bianchigirll (Post 21840736)
Good Morning and welcome to the forums. Can you tell us more about your Bianchi? Is it a road bike or a mountain bike? Does it have a model name on the tube across the top of the frame? Do any of the parts on it have names on them like Simplex, Modolo, DiaCompe?

I suspect it is one of the many fabulous Bianchi bikes built in Japan or Taiwan. OH what country are you and the bike in?

Hi Bianchi Girl,

It is a road bike, and I picked it up as a frameset. The labels on the tube say Reparto Corse Chromolite and Bianchi. It has the chromolite mega pro concept sticker on seat tube, and a made in Italy sticker on the neck. It looks like the Veloce frame when I look it up, but I wanted to be sure. I am in the US, and wish I could pose pictures, but the site would not allow me to.

Bianchigirll 12-20-20 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by B_Fung (Post 21840885)
Hi Bianchi Girl,

It is a road bike, and I picked it up as a frameset. The labels on the tube say Reparto Corse Chromolite and Bianchi. It has the chromolite mega pro concept sticker on seat tube, and a made in Italy sticker on the neck. It looks like the Veloce frame when I look it up, but I wanted to be sure. I am in the US, and wish I could pose pictures, but the site would not allow me to.

Chromolite puts in the later '90s. If you upload pics to your album we can still see them you just can't post them in the thread. The fork was very likely 1" steerer

B_Fung 12-20-20 09:54 AM

Bianchi RC late model
 

Originally Posted by Bianchigirll (Post 21840937)
Chromolite puts in the later '90s. If you upload pics to your album we can still see them you just can't post them in the thread. The fork was very likely 1" steerer

I hope this work. I just uploaded the photos on my albums. Thanks for your help bianchigirl

T-Mar 12-20-20 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by B_Fung (Post 21840659)
Hello,


First time poster. I just picked this up and wanted to know more about it. Serial # WBK255484T. More specifically the dimensions and the fork that came with the bike


Thanks in advance!


The serial number format is consistent with model manufactured in 2001 and imported into Denmark by (Borge) Kildemoes. European market models often have different names and specs than the USA models, This complicates identification, along with the fact that a common frame was often used for two or three models. So, unless you have some OEM components it will be difficult to narrow it down to an equivalent USA model, let alone the proper Danish model. However, based on the Cromolite tubing this would be upper entry level to low mid-range. By this time the Reparto Corse decal was primarily a marketing feature to lend some prestige. Frames at this level would not have been built by Reparto Corse.

B_Fung 12-20-20 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by T-Mar (Post 21840973)
The serial number format is consistent with model manufactured in 2001 and imported into Denmark by (Borge) Kildemoes. European market models often have different names and specs than the USA models, This complicates identification, along with the fact that a common frame was often used for two or three models. So, unless you have some OEM components it will be difficult to narrow it down to an equivalent USA model, let alone the proper Danish model. However, based on the Cromolite tubing this would be upper entry level to low mid-range. By this time the Reparto Corse decal was primarily a marketing feature to lend some prestige. Frames at this level would not have been built by Reparto Corse.

Would you happen to know off the top of your head which models used that frame?

Bianchigirll 12-20-20 01:10 PM

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...bfd62f92a.jpeg

andywarhol 12-25-20 09:30 AM

HEllo,
It’s my first time here :)
I’m going to buy classic Italian bike. The guy is trying to sell restored bianchi but I’m not sure what model it is and what production year.
Bike was painted in red but i Don’t know what colour it was oryginally.
Serial number was stamped on seatpost collar - right Side 5*4 and Left side 532.
Is it possible to estimate what bike is it (apart from it is bianchi)
Any suggestions where can I start to dig?

andywarhol 12-28-20 02:44 AM

owner states it's bianchi specialissima professionale, the weight with specification below is about 9,9kg:
full Campagnolo Super Record PAT.79; stem 3tt; nissi HR22 wheels and selle royal

andywarhol 12-28-20 02:48 AM

.... and Campagnolo Super Record platforms with straps

Bianchigirll 12-28-20 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by andywarhol (Post 21851418)
owner states it's bianchi specialissima professionale, the weight with specification below is about 9,9kg:
full Campagnolo Super Record PAT.79; stem 3tt; nissi HR22 wheels and selle royal

Almost every old Bianchi is identified as a Specialissma. In the US market if there was a Specialalisma it was before about 1980.

Where is the bike? Are there any engravings on the frame or fork? Red would be an odd color for a top of the Bianchi.

any pics? If you email them to me at BianchiGirLL@yahoo.com I’ll get them posted quick as I can.

it isn’t unusual for people to grab almost any Bianchi frame and load it up with Super Record.

andywarhol 12-29-20 01:34 AM

Thank You,
Bike is located in Poland but i don't know it's history.
Sent You email with pics.

Bianchigirll 12-29-20 05:32 PM

andywarhol Great color. I am not very well versed in European model bikes, but judging by the longer dropouts and the cables running above bottom bracket shell I am pretty sure this is a '70s frame or a very early '80s.

Something about the raised Bianchi on the stay caps make me think this might be a mid level frame, but again I don't know enough about European, especially Polish bikes. If this is a '70s, or early '80s frame perhaps it was contract build in Poland because of the Cold War. I am not sure if T-Mar can shed any light on this for us or not.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e6f8701d4.jpeg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ea278a5f4.jpeg

Bianchigirll 12-29-20 05:44 PM

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https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net...bd&oe=601139D4

https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net...7d&oe=6011AC65

https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net...4b&oe=6012DE97

https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net...b0&oe=601194B7

https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net...fc&oe=6010EAB3

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https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net...ff&oe=60119D94

andywarhol 12-30-20 01:40 AM

Thanks for analysis. I don't think there was any contract build except polish brands, but who knows :)

longtimealaskan 01-02-21 01:48 AM

I tried this once before and was told to try again. I'm new to the forum so I'm still finding my way around. I'm not sure if I am supposed to start a new thread or if I can ask my question on this thread. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

I bought a Bianchi Columbus SLX at an estate sale a couple of years ago with the idea of restoring it. I have since changed my mind 1. because the bike is a bit too large for me and 2. I'm not sure I could restore it properly. It has a fair amount of rust but I think most of it would come off easily and completely when sanded to metal. That said I'm trying to find out what I bought. It appears the bike was manufactured in Japan based on all the Japanese parts on the bike. Here's the dope on the bike:
Bianchi Columbus SLX
Serial #: 117121
Derailleurs: Shimano Altus LT
Sprocket: Sugino 52
Rear rim: Araya with Schuller hub (made in France) ????
Front rim: Araya with Sekai hub

longtimealaskan 01-02-21 01:52 AM

My photos didn't post. I'll try again. They are here but I have to make 10 posts before I can post photos.

Bianchigirll 01-02-21 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by longtimealaskan (Post 21858794)
My photos didn't post. I'll try again. They are here but I have to make 10 posts before I can post photos.

Hello and welcome to the forums. A Bianchi with a SLX frame would not have originally been fitted with those components.

what color is this bike?

I can’t seem to find your pics. If you want to email me some I’ll get them posted as quick as I can. BianchiGirLL@yahoo.com

Bianchigirll 01-02-21 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by longtimealaskan (Post 21858794)
My photos didn't post. I'll try again. They are here but I have to make 10 posts before I can post photos.


Email correspondence;

I found out as a new member I can't post photos until I have made 10 posts.

I greatly appreciate your help. I have just 3 photos to post but can take more photos if they are needed. I read on the forum that Bianchis were made in Japan for a while and I'm guessing mine was one of those considering the number of Japanese parts on the bike. The part I thought was interesting was the hub on the rear rim was made in France but the rim itself is a Japanese made rim Araya.

Thanks again

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but that frame shows none of the traits of a Bianchi built with Columbus SLX tubing. Is the B on the fork engraved or a sticker? What about the B at the top of the seat stays? Is there anything stamped on the dropouts?
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...207816492.jpeg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2969cc643.jpeg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2ab6b8977.jpeg

longtimealaskan 01-02-21 08:30 PM

I guess I'm not surprised that it isn't a Bianchi. The only numbers I found was the serial number, which didn't sound like a Bianchi. When I bought the bike at an estate sale the woman told me her dad was a bike enthusiast. I didn't realize that meant someone that would put Bianchi stickers on a different brand bike.

Bianchigirll 01-03-21 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by longtimealaskan (Post 21859723)
I guess I'm not surprised that it isn't a Bianchi. The only numbers I found was the serial number, which didn't sound like a Bianchi. When I bought the bike at an estate sale the woman told me her dad was a bike enthusiast. I didn't realize that meant someone that would put Bianchi stickers on a different brand bike.

you neglected to answer my questions. Just because it isn’t a SLX framed Bianchi or perhaps a Bianchi at all doesn’t it isn’t a decent frame. But only more details can tell for sure.

Don’t blame the previous owner it is quite possible he bought the bike as it now sits. It is also possible the person who painted and added the decals did so with no evil intent. People who couldn’t afford a new bike or didn’t want to buy one sometimes painted what they had to match a sponsor’s brand.


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