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Old 01-08-11, 04:52 PM
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Proud new ownder of Bianchigirll's Shogun Katana. Question about french thread pedals

Props to bianchigirll for the quick responses, replies and a smooth transaction.

I'm relatively new to "geared" cycling...I ride fixed gear But am completely excited to get into vintage geared cycling.

The pedals that came with this bike are white/red LOOK pedals. I noticed they are marked with "G" and "D". Egads. Does a D and G always mean they are french threaded? I put them side to side with some MKS pedals and I couldn't really tell much of a difference. My question was, (since I haven't got a chance to talk with Bianchigirll) if these were installed on this bicycle what does it mean? The SUGINO crank I'm going to assume is not french threaded. Am I stuck using the LOOK pedals, or can I use any 9/16 pedal? (I was going to run some MKS sylvans until I got up the courage to try clipless).

EDIT: so after some googling it appears you can safely install a french pedal into a english threaded pedal it will just be a tad loose. Whewwwwww. This will soon be a "pics of my new bike, that you've probably seen before!".

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Originally Posted by rootbeer
Props to bianchigirll for the quick responses, replies and a smooth transaction.

I'm relatively new to "geared" cycling...I ride fixed gear But am completely excited to get into vintage geared cycling.

The pedals that came with this bike are white/red LOOK pedals. I noticed they are marked with "G" and "D". Egads. Does a D and G always mean they are french threaded? I put them side to side with some MKS pedals and I couldn't really tell much of a difference. My question was, (since I haven't got a chance to talk with Bianchigirll) if these were installed on this bicycle what does it mean? The SUGINO crank I'm going to assume is not french threaded. Am I stuck using the LOOK pedals, or can I use any 9/16 pedal? (I was going to run some MKS sylvans until I got up the courage to try clipless).
Not always. I have some Look pedals marked that way and they are 9/16.
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Should take standard 9/16" pedals mine does. I can't imagine Sugino ever used a French thread.
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D and G (Droit and Gauche, right, left) means they're French made, but not necessarily french threaded. The french thread is materially smaller than 9/16" so if a standard thread pedal fits the crank, and there aren't wobbly when almost fully in, they're not French thread, and you don't have to worry.

If you don't have another crank or pedal for comparison, you can check with a caliper, 14mm french, vs 14.28mm for standard.

Your other (maybe simpler) option is to ask Bianchigirl, I'm sure she'll give you a straight answer.
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Where are the pics?
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Didn't realize she had one. Apparently came up in a Shogun identification thread.

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Originally Posted by rootbeer
Props to bianchigirll for the quick responses, replies and a smooth transaction.

EDIT: so after some googling it appears you can safely install a french pedal into a english threaded pedal it will just be a tad loose. Whewwwwww. This will soon be a "pics of my new bike, that you've probably seen before!".
Hello. I am not quite sure what "props" are, I am not really down with fixie slang but thank you.

as for the pedals, OH I unfortunately actually had to work this weekend so I did send a quick email reply during our fuel stop in Mass. anyway I never used the Look pedals but a set of cheap wellgos threaded on just fine.


Tugrul, I had picked it up late in August and it was just too small. I didn't post it much as I knew it was unfortunately not a 'keeper'
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Hello. I am not quite sure what "props" are, I am not really down with fixie slang but thank you.
www.urbandictionary.com - Proper recognition

"Fuel Stop"? Thats driver lingo....Nice!
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Originally Posted by rootbeer
Props to bianchigirll for the quick responses, replies and a smooth transaction.

I'm relatively new to "geared" cycling...I ride fixed gear But am completely excited to get into vintage geared cycling.

The pedals that came with this bike are white/red LOOK pedals. I noticed they are marked with "G" and "D". Egads. Does a D and G always mean they are french threaded? I put them side to side with some MKS pedals and I couldn't really tell much of a difference. My question was, (since I haven't got a chance to talk with Bianchigirll) if these were installed on this bicycle what does it mean? The SUGINO crank I'm going to assume is not french threaded. Am I stuck using the LOOK pedals, or can I use any 9/16 pedal? (I was going to run some MKS sylvans until I got up the courage to try clipless).

EDIT: so after some googling it appears you can safely install a french pedal into a english threaded pedal it will just be a tad loose. Whewwwwww. This will soon be a "pics of my new bike, that you've probably seen before!".
Just take your MKS pedals and try to thread them into the crank that's on the Shogun. 99% they're going to match. That's the easy way to see if they are really English-threaded or not.
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll
Hello. I am not quite sure what "props" are, I am not really down with fixie slang but thank you.

as for the pedals, OH I unfortunately actually had to work this weekend so I did send a quick email reply during our fuel stop in Mass. anyway I never used the Look pedals but a set of cheap wellgos threaded on just fine.


Tugrul, I had picked it up late in August and it was just too small. I didn't post it much as I knew it was unfortunately not a 'keeper'


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Just take your MKS pedals and try to thread them into the crank that's on the Shogun. 99% they're going to match. That's the easy way to see if they are really English-threaded or not.
I am in truth an idiot. The pedals in question are clearly stamped 9/16. I threw my MKS pedals on and took her for a spin. Was a fun ride.


Posting pictures one I can find my damn camera charger.

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So here are the pedals and shoes/cleats.

The shoes are too small for me, however how interchangeable are cleats/shoes? For example, if I buy something advertised as "cycling shoes" will I need to find ones that accept 3 hole cleats?


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3 hole Look compatible road shoes are common.
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Originally Posted by rootbeer
So here are the pedals and shoes/cleats.

The shoes are too small for me, however how interchangeable are cleats/shoes? For example, if I buy something advertised as "cycling shoes" will I need to find ones that accept 3 hole cleats?
There are multiple cleat mounting bolt patterns. This pattern is the most common on road bike shoes, but it's best to confirm which system or bolt pattern prospective shoes have before buying.
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That Shogun is a nice bike. Bianchigirll offered it to me once. I should have taken it. Lol.
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Sweet, so is there a different name for this other than "3 hole cycling shoe"? And is $100+ about the cheapest entry level I'm going to find? : (
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Sweet, so is there a different name for this other than "3 hole cycling shoe"? And is $100+ about the cheapest entry level I'm going to find? : (
Should be able to find decent entry-level shoes in the $50 - $60 range. Something like these: https://www.performancebike.com/bikes...1_20000_400097
Just make sure whatever ones you look at are for 3 bolt cleats.
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That Shogun is a nice bike. Bianchigirll offered it to me once. I should have taken it. Lol.
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Andy Hampsten is eagerly awaiting the return of his old shoes, no questions asked.

Originally Posted by rootbeer
So here are the pedals and shoes/cleats.

The shoes are too small for me, however how interchangeable are cleats/shoes? For example, if I buy something advertised as "cycling shoes" will I need to find ones that accept 3 hole cleats?

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