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Suntour V-Gt and V-GT Luxe

Old 03-17-18, 07:03 AM
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Date code is stamped on the back of the inner parallelogram arm (two letters in a circle); the word LUXE is on the face of the outer parallelogram arm beside the V-GT.
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Old 03-18-18, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by markk900
Date code is stamped on the back of the inner parallelogram arm (two letters in a circle); the word LUXE is on the face of the outer parallelogram arm beside the V-GT.
clearly 'PL' - this helps me date this Nishiki International as a 73-74 ( based on some uncertainty on the bike frame serial number, but some certainty on the Suntour hanger code).
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pictures would solve this maybe someone replaced the cage
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Question about a Raleigh Suntour V-GT

I recently bought a Raleigh branded Suntour derailleur that looks like a V-GT to use on a 1974 Raleigh International. When I bolt it on to the bike it does not pivot around the mounting bolt, unlike all of the other derailleurs I have. The others have have shoulder bolts and torsion springs. Is that how it is supposed to be? The mounting bolt has this black retaining clip on the back.
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Originally Posted by cheg
I recently bought a Raleigh branded Suntour derailleur that looks like a V-GT to use on a 1974 Raleigh International. When I bolt it on to the bike it does not pivot around the mounting bolt, unlike all of the other derailleurs I have. The others have have shoulder bolts and torsion springs. Is that how it is supposed to be? The mounting bolt has this black retaining clip on the back.
When you say it doesn't pivot do you mean it doesn't move at all or just that it isn't sprung? I picked one of these up recently and mine moves but isn't sprung. On the workstand it didn't feel like I would hope but on the road it works well.
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Most of the Suntour V-GT Luxe RDs with claw have a straight through longer bolt with no circlip. The Long bolt runs through the claw hanger and affixes to an included flat nut. The RDs with no claw have a shorter bolt and an integrated slotted nut that somehow holds the bolt in place but adds no thickness to the mounting knuckle and is visible at a rear view. IMO, that is a different applications (direct to RD hanger vs claw) and engineered for that rather than using the original knuckle casting for claw use. The shorter bolt allows for direct hanger mounting without locking the mounting knuckle down tight, allowing it to pivot.

IMO, this particular Raleigh branded unit is one for use with a claw, the bolt may be longer, there is no integrated slotted nut, and I’ve never seen a circlip on any Suntour bolt, they just fall out. I think the circlip was added by a previous owner/user to hold the bolt in and is preventing the Rd from pivoting.
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When you say it doesn't pivot do you mean it doesn't move at all or just that it isn't sprung? I picked one of these up recently and mine moves but isn't sprung. On the workstand it didn't feel like I would hope but on the road it works well.
It does not move at all. The bolt just tightens down and clamps the body to the hanger.
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IMO, this particular Raleigh branded unit is one for use with a claw, the bolt may be longer, there is no integrated slotted nut, and I’ve never seen a circlip on any Suntour bolt, they just fall out. I think the circlip was added by a previous owner/user to hold the bolt in and is preventing the Rd from pivoting.
I think this has the wrong bolt for use with a hanger, it is a claw bolt without the nut. Risk of ebay buying. I'll see i I can get the right one at Recycled Cycles.
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Originally Posted by cheg
I think this has the wrong bolt for use with a hanger, it is a claw bolt without the nut. Risk of ebay buying. I'll see i I can get the right one at Recycled Cycles.
I bought mine with a claw and I'm using the bolt it came with. I don't remember it having a c-clip. There was a washer there I believe.
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I bought mine with a claw and I'm using the bolt it came with. I don't remember it having a c-clip. There was a washer there I believe.
Does yours move around the mounting bolt when it is mounted?
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Does yours move around the mounting bolt when it is mounted?
Yes.
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One of the other problems I found with using the claw bolt without the claw is that the bolt threads are too long and allow the bolt to go past the inside of the dropout and potentially interfere with the last freewheel cog, depending on clearances.
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