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Old 01-09-11, 11:22 PM
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Suntour V-Gt and V-GT Luxe

Is there much of a difference between the Suntour VX-GT and Suntour V-GT Luxe rear derailleurs. I don't have much experience with them but picked upone of each and a Suntour Cyclone front derailleur for $10 yesterday.
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Later model GT Luxe page at disraeligears.co.uk.

Sounds like they went all aluminum on that one. Does it feel 128g lighter?
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I should correct myself - it's actually a VX GT and a V-GT Luxe. My memory was obviously faulty. The V-GT Luxe has a derailleur hanger claw bolted to it and actually feels heavier so it must be an earlier model. It appears the weight difference should be correct. Both are long cage derailleurs so should provide some good flexibility.
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Use either one for a dependable shift.
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I have the short cage VX and a VGT Luxe. I think the VGT is an older model than the VX Gt but I am not sure. Both are great derailleurs. I am positive the VGT luxe will be heavier, mine is an armored tank of a derailleur.

You can't go wrong with either, go with the one that looks best to you.
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Originally Posted by mkeller234
I have the short cage VX and a VGT Luxe. I think the VGT is an older model than the VX Gt but I am not sure. Both are great derailleurs. I am positive the VGT luxe will be heavier, mine is an armored tank of a derailleur.

You can't go wrong with either, go with the one that looks best to you.
Ditto. I have both and they are very dependable.
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Originally Posted by mkeller234
I have the short cage VX and a VGT Luxe. I think the VGT is an older model than the VX Gt but I am not sure. Both are great derailleurs. I am positive the VGT luxe will be heavier, mine is an armored tank of a derailleur.

You can't go wrong with either, go with the one that looks best to you.
The Luxe should be much lighter.
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Just weighed the two on my non-digital postal scale:

V-GT Luxe - approximately 10.5 oz or 298 grams
VX-GT - just shy of 7.5 oz or around 212 - 213 grams
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That's odd.
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Is there a Vx GT Lux? Seems to me I've seen one in my box of parts. Now that would be lighter than the Vx GT.

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Originally Posted by Scottryder
Is there a Vx GT Lux? Seems to me I've seen one in my box of parts. Now that would be lighter than the Vx GT.

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I believe this was the sequence, getting lighter left to right:

V, short cage (steel parallelogram plates) -> V-Luxe, short cage (aluminum plates and cages) -> Vx, short cage (aluminum plates and cages)
V-GT, long cage (steel cage and plates) -> V-GT Luxe, long cage (aluminum cage and plates) -> Vx-GT, long cage (aluminum plates and cages)
V-T Luxe, mid cage (aluminum cage and plates) -> Vx-S, mid cage (aluminum plates and cages)

I have examples of each.
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Originally Posted by scozim
Just weighed the two on my non-digital postal scale:

V-GT Luxe - approximately 10.5 oz or 298 grams
VX-GT - just shy of 7.5 oz or around 212 - 213 grams
Are you supposed to count the bolt on claw in that?
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It jives with what is written at disraeligears.co.uk:

Originally Posted by disraeligears.co.uk
The ‘x’ in SunTour Vx was widely understood as standing for ‘extra light’ (I do not know whether this was SunTour’s real intention). This was the SunTour V T Luxe after it had been on a strenuous diet, the steel holder for the cable clamp bolt has been replaced by an aluminium channel and the knuckles are slimmer and neater.
SunTour Vx (1st style)
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I don't know which worked better or lasted longer. They were both excellent. But the Vx seemed a bit crisper to me at the time.

Of course, hyperglide cogs and a modern chain will improve these derailleurs vastly, as we discussed recently in another thread.

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this whole thread reminds me of an observation i made the other day...

In moving things around in some part bins, trying to get ready for some builds, I realized that my ca 1981 suntour cyclone mkII weighs noticeably less than my ca 2009 ultegra 6600ss. I own a little scale for soaping, and i was going to use that to see the difference, but i decided to go the traditional route, and looked it up online. Disraeli lists the cyclone mkII at 164grams; several online retailers put the 6600ss at 209grams! Wow. 35g. I don't spend a lot of time counting grams, but i still started to wonder: this is progress?

But, to be fair, the 6600 is quite smooth, reliable, sealed bearings, etc. The suntour is very nice, too, but progress has been made in other areas....

-rob (who may be putting some components on his soap scale, in the name of science)
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I know. That Cyclone is pretty unbeatable in so many ways. And it was inexpensive to produce, too; the retail price represented a lot of profit, a lot more than the V-GT generated. The wholesale price difference was about $1.

Please do weigh your parts. I'm trying to get an idea of how a bike's weight breaks down. I have some bikes that weigh more than I'd expect, and I plan to figure out why.
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I have some bikes that weigh more than I'd expect, and I plan to figure out why.
Be careful what you wish for.
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Luxe means the steel plates are aluminum, and Vx means "eXtra light" construction. The V-GT Luxe is older but much more famous. Vx is lighter, and probably better shifting due to slightly newer design and shelf life. However, I would look at how well the springs and other parts are worn on both and if the Vx has a quick cage before coming to a conclusion.

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Of course, hyperglide cogs and a modern chain will improve these derailleurs vastly, as we discussed recently in another thread.
Could you post the link? I am interested to read that.
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I own both, and love them both...
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Vx-GT is a little lighter, the V-GT Luxe a little more durable, choose your poison, both are great RDs.

Anyone need any??
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I just picked up a V-GT Luxe today for $5, that looks unused, except for a little grease on the pulleys. The date code is UD, which is 1978 I believe, which would be the second year they made them. I guess I didn't "need" to dig up another zombie thread, but I thought other folks who missed it before, might like the mouse pics. I know I did.
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It's a good old model and especially reliable and durable.
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Originally Posted by noglider
It's a good old model and especially reliable and durable.
That's what she says.
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Originally Posted by spacemanz
I just picked up a V-GT Luxe today for $5, that looks unused, except for a little grease on the pulleys. The date code is UD, which is 1978 I believe, which would be the second year they made them. I guess I didn't "need" to dig up another zombie thread, but I thought other folks who missed it before, might like the mouse pics. I know I did.
where is the date code on a V-GT and does the word Luxe appear on the body?
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