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tugrul 01-23-11 01:46 PM

1984 Schwinn Paramount
 
Well, here is the rest of the Paramount I posted about yesterday.


Originally Posted by tugrul (Post 12117906)
These are off the 1984 Schwinn Paramount I somehow beat the horde to on the Boston CL today. The rest of the components are easy enough, Shimano 600EX brake levers/calipers, Superbe Pro shifters, front derailleur and seat post. It has some abominable adjustable height stem with Cinelli bars, but that might be ok for now as it turned out to be only 57cm CTC (570 stamped on the Cinelli BB). I haven't figured out the wheels yet.

I'll see whether I want to brave the cold tomorrow for photos. It is filthy and well used (the bent drop out screws are apparent, the front caliper could use a new QR assembly, all the paint chips seem shiny, chromed frame?).

Kurt, the serial number on the NDS dropout is A8422 (22 not clear, fades into contour). The DS dropout has portacatena holes. Clamp on front derailleur. Columbus sticker is missing the useful half. Over BB routing.


http://lh3.ggpht.com/_Iy1t9Kxyj9I/TT..._DriveSide.jpg
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Iy1t9Kxyj9I/TT...Seat_Tubes.jpg
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Iy1t9Kxyj9I/TT...P_Top_Tube.jpg
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Iy1t9Kxyj9I/TT..._Down_Tube.jpg
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Iy1t9Kxyj9I/TT..._Head_Tube.jpg
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_Iy1t9Kxyj9I/TT...om_Bracket.jpg
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Iy1t9Kxyj9I/TT...at_Cluster.jpg
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Iy1t9Kxyj9I/TT...ift_Levers.jpg
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_Iy1t9Kxyj9I/TT...Fork_Crown.jpg
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Iy1t9Kxyj9I/TT...ake_Bridge.jpg

tugrul 01-23-11 01:47 PM

These are pretty nondescript hubs. Just a sticker with seal bearings wrapping around them. The freewheel is a Sachs 7 speed.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Iy1t9Kxyj9I/TT..._Front_Hub.jpg
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Iy1t9Kxyj9I/TT...2_Rear_Hub.jpg
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Iy1t9Kxyj9I/TT...ar_Profile.jpg

tugrul 01-23-11 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh (Post 12118164)
Fantastic find on your Paramount!

Thanks Pastor Bob. I was a bit optimistic yesterday assuming the 570 on the BB meant CTC. It looks very much like it is CTT. The obnoxious stem might have to stay :p


Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh (Post 12118164)
The "A" in the serial number means built in January of 1984 and it was the 22nd framset. I'm assuming it has the rainbow decals like my black '83. By mid 1984 the decals were switched to the 1980s and 1990s standard style, so your Paramount is near to the end of the Rainbow line.

Somehow mine dodged the rainbow decals.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...2FullView2.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...alsideview.jpg

^^ Bob's rainbow Paramount


Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh (Post 12118164)
Another interesting transition which occurred at the end of '84 was the switch to under the BB cable routing. This white November '84 has the standard decals and top cable routing.

I prefer the over BB routing myself, so I'm happy there.

canyoneagle 01-23-11 01:55 PM

Nice find, and I agree the stem's got to go.
Congrats!

cehowardGS 01-23-11 02:10 PM

Great find :thumb:

If not to personal, what you pay for it?

I was trying to get a nice Paramount frame off Ebay, but they go crazy over there and bid to high h*ll..

ScottRyder 01-23-11 02:46 PM

Good going Tugral, you'll have to join our 2nd annual Paramount ride out of Newburyport next summer ..

Scott

bikenut2011 01-23-11 02:51 PM

Great Find!! Congrats!!

andy

tugrul 01-23-11 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by cehowardGS (Post 12119706)
If not to personal, what you pay for it?

I paid the asking price of $200. It is well used if not a bit abused, so I don't feel guilty about it, but I'm sure it's still less than market as-is. There were three other suitors ready to pay, sight unseen, which wasn't hard to believe. The fact that he replied to my email requesting dimensions and let me have first shot at it was.

He was a bit generous in his measurement of the seat tube, 23", which to be fair is the measurement to the peak of the seat cluster. If he had said 57cm, I probably would have passed, and hoped not to see it on eBay.

The ad was horrible though, no photos, not much in it beyond the title "Blue Paramount Campi Parts". Somehow it turned out to be exactly the generation/shade of blue/decal set I had envisioned.

The previous owner had bought it from the first owner in 1991. I think he said she raced it back in her college days. He was moving overseas, and had picked up a new SRAM equipped bike, and didn't realize how much of a gem this was.

tugrul 01-23-11 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by Scottryder (Post 12119845)
Good going Tugral, you'll have to join our 2nd annual Paramount ride out of Newburyport next summer ..

I look forward to it.

cehowardGS 01-23-11 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by tugrul (Post 12119894)
I paid the asking price of $200. It is well used if not a bit abused, so I don't feel guilty about it, but I'm sure it's still less than market as-is. There were three other suitors ready to pay, sight unseen, which wasn't hard to believe. The fact that he replied to my email requesting dimensions and let me have first shot at it was.

He was a bit generous in his measurement of the seat tube, 23", which to be fair is the measurement to the peak of the seat cluster. If he had said 57cm, I probably would have passed, and hoped not to see it on eBay.

The ad was horrible though, no photos, not much in it beyond the title "Blue Paramount Campi Parts". Somehow it turned out to be exactly the generation/shade of blue/decal set I had envisioned.

The previous owner had bought it from the first owner in 1991. I think he said she raced it back in her college days. He was moving overseas, and had picked up a new SRAM equipped bike, and didn't realize how much of a gem this was.

Sweet.. C&L is where I am finding my good finds. Ebay is going crazy. Anythng decent, they bid it holy h*ll.

I am going to keep looking for my Paramount...;)

stien 01-23-11 03:21 PM

Way cool. Glad I didn't see that. I also missed the Celeste Bianchi for $200 with matching frame pump and tubulars.

Oregon Southpaw 01-23-11 03:26 PM

I wonder if this bike got a re-spray. I thought those decals were much newer, like the '88 era.

tugrul 01-23-11 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by Oregon Southpaw (Post 12120001)
I wonder if this bike got a re-spray. I thought those decals were much newer, like the '88 era.

It appears in the 1985 catalog, FWIW.

pastorbobnlnh 01-23-11 07:15 PM

Wow. I'm stumped on the decals! I thought I had it figured out that the decals transitioned sometime during the summer of 1984. But if your Paramount is stamped "A8422," and A = January, I must be wrong. Unless it was repainted, but if that was the case, it is even more of a sin, considering it's current condition.

I'm glad you rescued this Paramount from the abuse and misuse it was suffering. You will love the way it rides.

Scooper 01-23-11 07:53 PM

At $200 that's a steal! Congratulations.

tugrul 01-23-11 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh (Post 12121078)
Wow. I'm stumped on the decals! I thought I had it figured out that the decals transitioned sometime during the summer of 1984.

Would it be worthwhile to ping Waterford about this bike? I don't want to waste their time unless it has turned out useful information before.


Originally Posted by Scooper (Post 12121224)
At $200 that's a steal! Congratulations.

Thank you. It feels like my flock now has a shepherd ;)

Scooper 01-23-11 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by tugrul (Post 12121297)
Would it be worthwhile to ping Waterford about this bike? I don't want to waste their time unless it has turned out useful information before.

They charge $50 for a provenance report. Personally, I think it's worth it but others don't. Here are the reports for my '72 P15-9 and my '87 "Standard"...

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7...ancereport.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7...ovenancesm.jpg


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