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kroozer 01-27-11 11:37 AM

decal removal
 
Is it possible to remove old decals without damaging the paint? This would be for a yellow 1972 Schwinn Super Sport. The down-tube decals are looking pretty ratty, although the original paint is in good enough condition that I'd prefer to avoid repainting.

Muttleyone 01-27-11 11:46 AM

I've done the same thing. I soaked "goo gone" on a paper towel and wrapped it around the tube with the decal that needs to be removed. Then wrap the paper towel with plastic wrap for a few hours or over night. As always test the "goo gone" on some out of the way paint first.

Mutt

sauze 01-27-11 12:07 PM

+1 Goo Gone has worked well for me

sced 01-27-11 12:21 PM

Nail polish remover.

bobbycorno 01-27-11 12:23 PM

Just make sure the decals are on top of the paint, not under a clear coat.

SP
Bend, OR

Chombi 01-27-11 01:02 PM

Depending on what type of decal it is. If it's just stick-on vinyl type decals, you can (carefully, to avoid finish damage)heat them up with a hair dryer or heat gun and peel them off, unless they're so old and are all cracked up and brittle, then a solvent like "Goo gone" should work, but it will be messy, and take time and patience. Buyt the replacements and stick them on
For clear coated over decals, you will most likely have to strip (can't see how you can just strip the clearcoat and decals without harming the paint under it) the bike, re-paint and put on the replacement decals (Ater Transfer type, I assume) and clear coat over them. Just be careful and find out what clear coat paint is comaptible sith the new decals as it could melt and shrivel them up if they aren't.

Chombi

shrinkboy 01-27-11 01:04 PM

i recall using carbon tetrachloride to remove some once a long time ago, but i bet goo gone would be easier

Chombi 01-27-11 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by shrinkboy (Post 12140892)
i recall using carbon tetrachloride to remove some once a long time ago, but i bet goo gone would be easier

Carbon tetrachloride is super poisonous! :eek::eek::eek: Do not use the stuff unless you are equipped to properly do so or you will endanger yourself and anyone next to you with liver damage real quick.:twitchy:

Chombi

Maddox 01-27-11 02:18 PM

Personally I wouldn't bother too much with a Super Sport. Why not just ride it and let the decal wear off over time?

The best decay/beausage is accumulated, not inflicted.

khatfull 01-27-11 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by Maddox (Post 12141227)
Personally I wouldn't bother too much with a Super Sport. Why not just ride it and let the decal wear off over time?

The best decay/beausage is accumulated, not inflicted.

For those who were as confused as I: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Beausage

Grand Bois 01-27-11 02:44 PM

I don't think I'll be using it.

unworthy1 01-27-11 07:53 PM

I'd use it when ordering a sandwich
mmmmm....beausage with peppers and provolone ;)

khatfull 01-27-11 08:07 PM

Here you're looking to remove decals and I just got notification that my $150 order from VeloCals shipped today. Funny how these things work.

beech333 01-27-11 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by Chombi (Post 12140956)
Carbon tetrachloride is super poisonous! :eek::eek::eek: Do not use the stuff unless you are equipped to properly do so or you will endanger yourself and anyone next to you with liver damage real quick.:twitchy:

Chombi

Glad someone posted this several hours ago. :twitchy:

Michael Angelo 01-27-11 08:29 PM

Have you tried Scratch-X? I just removed a few on my Competition GS and they came right off. My replacement decals came from Cyclomondo. You have to be carefull using solvent removers, some of them will hurt you and the paint.

Mike

BentLink 01-27-11 08:42 PM

I just did this with some old crapped-out Columbus decals. A little hair dryer to heat it and a finger nail was all it took (though the decal was mostly shredded). A little rub with a soft cotton cloth and the paint was pristine, undamaged.

randyjawa 01-28-11 03:11 AM

This is How To Remove Unwanted Stickers.

Hope it is a help.

Glennfordx4 01-28-11 06:51 AM

With the type of decals ( silk screened type ) that are on your Schwinn it won't take much effort to remove them, you can even use a commercial cleaner like Spray Nine or Power Purple diluted down with water. I have removed older Schwinn decals by accident when using Power Purple while cleaning a bike. If you mix it right it should not bother the paint. When I had problems with it removing decals from the old Schwinns I had it mixed at one part cleaner 2/3rds water in a gal container which is strong. Test it on the paint somewhere first but when I used it it had no ill effects on the paint on my 72 baby blue SS or my 74 Suburban. This is what I first found out what happens when you try and wash a old Schwinn with one of those cleaners listed above( note paint was already in poor shape & this pic is after pulling it down from my shops attic after 12 yrs).
Glenn
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/m...4/P6080027.jpg

shrinkboy 01-28-11 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by Chombi (Post 12140956)
Carbon tetrachloride is super poisonous! :eek::eek::eek: Do not use the stuff unless you are equipped to properly do so or you will endanger yourself and anyone next to you with liver damage real quick.:twitchy:

Chombi

that could explain a lot about the last 25 years or so of me life; BTW, i wasn't saying it should be done, just that it was rec'd to me when i wanted to do it once, long, long ago. besides being super poisonous, it worked really wellj!!

Wogster 01-28-11 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by bobbycorno (Post 12140692)
Just make sure the decals are on top of the paint, not under a clear coat.

SP
Bend, OR

Usually ratty decals are because they were not originally protected by a clear coat, with a clear coat, it's the clear coat that takes the damage and the decals underneath are protected somewhat, a deep scratch that goes through the clear coat and damages the decal, would need to be stripped down to the decal, the decal replaced and then the clear coat repaired.

Old Yeller 01-28-11 07:30 AM

I used to use Carbon tetrachloride(dry cleaning fluid) soaked in a cottonball in a mayonaise jar to kill bugs for my bug collection when I was a kid. I'm just fine :twitchy:

rootboy 01-28-11 07:35 AM

I love the smell of Carbon Tet in the morning .....

...do they even still make the stuff?

Glennfordx4 01-28-11 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by rootboy (Post 12144754)
I love the smell of Carbon Tet in the morning .....

...do they even still make the stuff?

I think it is still in Brake Cleaner. I remember back in the 90's when the EPA was cracking down on underground fuel storage tank removals and wast oil tank set ups, we had bought one of the first parts cleaners that had a cleaner you could dump right in with the waste oil when it was time to change. At the same time we had a huge painting project going on in the shop painting equipment for the upcoming spring ( big rental outfit ) when we had the EPA show up along with the owner of a oil recycler we used, it turns out that the morons doing the painting were cleaning the paint guns and supplies in the parts cleaner and using brake cleaner to rinse the guns, it cost us $10.000 for the first fine and $35.000 for the second one ( yes they did it again in less then 6 months) for contaminating the oil in the recycle truck with Tetrachloride.

ColonelJLloyd 01-28-11 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by khatfull (Post 12141255)
For those who were as confused as I: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Beausage

The printed word looks too much like sausage to me. Mmmmm. Sausage. We made ~400 pounds weekend before last.

http://gallery.me.com/justinhughes/1...12952983390001

http://gallery.me.com/justinhughes/1...12952987520001

As to the OP. Heating the decals and carefully using a new razor blade to lift up the decals is where I'd start. Being as old as they are, though, a solvent (like Goo Gone) is probably what you'll need.

rootboy 01-28-11 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by Glennfordx4 (Post 12144822)
I think it is still in Brake Cleaner. I remember back in the 90's when the EPA was cracking down on underground fuel storage tank removals and wast oil tank set ups, we had bought one of the first parts cleaners that had a cleaner you could dump right in with the waste oil when it was time to change. At the same time we had a huge painting project going on in the shop painting equipment for the upcoming spring ( big rental outfit ) when we had the EPA show up along with the owner of a oil recycler we used, it turns out that the morons doing the painting were cleaning the paint guns and supplies in the parts cleaner and using brake cleaner to rinse the guns, it cost us $10.000 for the first fine and $35.000 for the second one ( yes they did it again in less then 6 months) for contaminating the oil in the recycle truck with Tetrachloride.

...UGH. Nasty stuff indeed.


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