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Old 01-29-11, 07:51 AM
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Lambert Hubs

I found two sets of hubs yesterday, they are high flange, 36/36h and 32/40h Lambert branded alloy hubs. What caught my attention is that they appear to use sealed bearings? The 32/40h set has larger spoke holes.
Were these decent hubs? How old? I won the lot in an auction, there's four hubs, a set of center pull calipers, two drop bar brake levers, several brake hoods, several skewers, and a seat post quick release clamp.
I take it someone stripped a Lambert brand bike?
Were these good hubs to use elsewhere or are they best off saved for a Lambert?
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Old 01-29-11, 08:03 AM
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The Lambert bikes were interesting because they used mostly Lambert branded (or Lambert made?) components, which were generally lower-quality copies of high-end stuff. The crank, for example, was based on a TA cyclotouriste crank. I believe they used standard sealed bearings. As I recall the hubs were pretty nice; no reason not to use them if you want to use a freewheel anyway.

As for the brakes, etc... well, I could use those! PM sent.
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I think they're nice hubs. They look like Normandys. I built the front wheel for my Carton 3 speed around one. The bearings are Japanese cartridge type.

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You're lucky they did not throw in a Lambert fork.

I had a Lambert that used 36/36 hubs. I found the flanges to be a bit thin and the aluminum quite soft. The result was breaking a lot of spokes. I finally resorted to using washers to make the flanges thicker and radiusing the spokes to give the elbow a snug fit around the flange.

One warning regarding the rear. It's possible to pull out the bearings and axle, when removing a freewheel and using the quick release to hold down the remover. The same problem exists for Phil Wood hubs, so they are in good company. Phil supplies a bell cover that goes on the opposite side so there's no net force on the axle assembly. You can make your own by using an appropriately sized socket.
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The Lambert bikes were interesting because they used mostly Lambert branded (or Lambert made?) components, which were generally lower-quality copies of high-end stuff. The crank, for example, was based on a TA cyclotouriste crank. I believe they used standard sealed bearings. As I recall the hubs were pretty nice; no reason not to use them if you want to use a freewheel anyway.

As for the brakes, etc... well, I could use those! PM sent.
I can't reply to PMs, not enough posts to my name.

I'm not sure what I plan to do with this stuff yet, the hubs look generic enough to make a good all purpose wheelset. The calipers look like silver painted or powder coated Weinmann 610s, and the seat post clamp looks like it would come in handy on just about any bike.
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Originally Posted by SBinNYC View Post
You're lucky they did not throw in a Lambert fork.

I had a Lambert that used 36/36 hubs. I found the flanges to be a bit thin and the aluminum quite soft. The result was breaking a lot of spokes. I finally resorted to using washers to make the flanges thicker and radiusing the spokes to give the elbow a snug fit around the flange.

One warning regarding the rear. It's possible to pull out the bearings and axle, when removing a freewheel and using the quick release to hold down the remover. The same problem exists for Phil Wood hubs, so they are in good company. Phil supplies a bell cover that goes on the opposite side so there's no net force on the axle assembly. You can make your own by using an appropriately sized socket.
These hub flanges are pretty thick, they're a lot thicker than those on a Shimano or Normandy hub, and the flange diameters are bit larger too. They look pretty heavy duty, which may be a good thing at my size.

These are also super smooth feeling hubs, far nicer than any cone type hub I've seen in a while.
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Old 01-29-11, 09:29 AM
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I built some wheels for my brother using those hubs. He's still riding on them almost 30 years later.
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Old 01-29-11, 01:21 PM
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The hubs are probably the best items from a Lambert. If you have those QR skewers as Grand Bois posted, then it's all gravy!
Sounds like you have a tourer specific set of hubs with the 32/40H.
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That's actually a Simplex skewer. It's on my Jeunet now and Noah Scape supplied the matching rear. There was a genuine Lambert skewer on eBay a few weeks ago. I bid on it and lost.

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Old 01-29-11, 01:55 PM
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I have a bunch of Lambert/Viscount stuff I'll be putting up on the trade or sale thread in the near future. Lambert high flange hubs tied to a set of Birmalux 27" clinchers, a Lambert QR seat post binder bolt, one front Lambert branded skewer, pedals (sorry, no dust caps), Lambert branded shifter levers, GB brakes, stem and bars.

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Old 01-29-11, 03:43 PM
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Dibs on the skewer!
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The one in the picture was hand polished by the owner , I don't recall them being so shiny, new.

Sealed bearings , that are common types can always be replaced.
Bearing number imprinted in the seal , typically.
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Dibs on the skewer!
Just like the brakes, they are now marked "GB".

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Old 01-29-11, 05:20 PM
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The hubs are keepers, their super smooth and look the part of just about any project if I can ignore the 'Lambert' Script. The hubs have three Lamberty Skewers, only one still has it's 'L' dustcap. The third hub has a Cyclo branded Skewer that looks just like it but more worn. The Lambert skewers are pretty nice, they even have brass insert bushings around the wire handle ends.

The brakes are super clean, but the hoods are pretty dry, they resemble Mafac hoods. There's one set of hoods marked Carlton, which I'll save for another bike.
Who ever boxed this stuff stripped a fairly nice bike, and made a point of packing it all up together. I've even got the rear hanger, brake cable ends for the levers, three Lambert Cable clamps, and straddle bridges. I've go a seat post clamp too with both dust caps.

The 32/40 hubs would be good for an old British bike, maybe upgrade the old Raleigh Sprite 27 I've got hanging in the garage all apart.
There is some Lambert stuff on eBay now, but I only saw one caliper.
I don't think I've ever run across a complete Lambert bike, only these parts.

The minute I sell these, I'll stumble across a minty frame that needs them.
Of course, that thinking is probably why I've got a basement and attic packed to the ceiling with old bike parts.
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I've got a set of Lambert marked hubs on a Mikado I just bought, they came from a Viscount, along with the rims marked Windsor. The spokes are thicker then most road bikes. They roll super smooth, it's noticeable compared to the old Shimano 333 hubs that were on the bike at first.
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I wouldn't mind making a bid on a few items, I have a just about fully restored 1978 Viscount Aerospace pro that is for the most part original, but to make it legit I need a few items. I have a few extra items as I purchased pieces to get the restoration done. for sure the stem and bars if they are from the Aerospace pro model
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i have an entire lambert complete with the original crank, death stem, and pedals (though one is missing the "L" cap). It needs an overhall. Maybe someday I'll get around it.*

sorry for the noglider style random post that only vaguely has to do with the thread, but that's all I've got to add right now.
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What about my Lambert mystery hubs? As I have mentioned in a couple of other threads, my big Christmas present this year was a 1962 Carlton Franco-Suisse with mostly aftermarket components. The wheelset features high flange Lambert hubs with conventional, not sealed, bearings and 27" steel (ugh) rims. I found a set of aluminum 700C rims, which I plan to use with new stainless spokes on the Lambert hubs, which are in superb condition. Everyone else who has mentioned Lambert hubs has talked only about the sealed bearing variety built for the ill-fated Viscount bicycles. My skewers have only a stylized S on them.
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Post a picture of the Lambert hubs please. I have a couple of Lambert bikes in my collection. Roger
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