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Originally Posted by phillyrider
(Post 12231728)
Great bike - "no one beats the wiz"...well, someone had to say it...
Just out of interest - incredible frame, but the suntour cylone rear deraileur seems out of place for such a bike. It's mid level on a high end bike. What would be the suitable replacement - I assume all campy is in order. Anyone else agree? |
A very pretty frame, especially for its height. The long top tube balances everything with grace.
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From this Harry Potter-obsessed family, that bike is SWEET and the headbadge is amazing.
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Originally Posted by repechage
(Post 12231434)
You could start with a Carlesbad Masi, a Wizard, a Medici, a Confente, Eisentraut, Lippy, Roberson, Tesch, American Moulton, Starck, And I might be leaving one out.
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Originally Posted by repechage
(Post 12231434)
A few years ago there was a Masi frame on ebay that had the seat lug filed as that one is only more so, which I consider a tribute to Albert Eisentraut.
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Originally Posted by Picchio Special
(Post 12233979)
Which is interesting, as Baylis has said that Albert's penchant for extensively (and uniformly) thinned lugs is about the only thing he doesn't like about Eisentraut's work.
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Thread resurrection, but I don't think most will mind. Stumbled on this beauty in my lbs (for sale) and snapped a few pics:
http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/a...z/IMG_2768.jpg http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/a...z/IMG_2767.jpg http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/a...z/IMG_2765.jpg http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/a...z/IMG_2771.jpg http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/a...z/IMG_2769.jpg http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/a...z/IMG_2776.jpg http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/a...z/IMG_2772.jpg |
Is that a repaint (per the Litton decal)? I get the impression that Baylis did the original paint for those, but maybe I'm wrong. If Brian was the original painter, I would think his work would account for some of the value of the bikes/frames (not that Ed Litton doesn't do superior work). A cool frame in any case.
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What is the name of the bike shop? Might be worth a call.
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Wow, I've got a new grail bike. That's too cool. I put in a vote for keeping the componentry as is. I liked seeing the cyclone too, first of all it's cool and unusual like the frame, and obviously the rider cared more about performance than making everything "high end". I'm not sure if it's just the lighting, but that is the most beautiful blue I've ever seen for a bike.
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I saw a Wizard in a magazine a dozen or so years ago and fell in love with it. It was black and had Omas titanium bits. I have never forgotten it. Yours in the second one I have seen and I can see beauty is in the Wizard DNA.
What a great story especially with your father's very wise choice of builders. |
Originally Posted by Picchio Special
(Post 12849867)
Is that a repaint (per the Litton decal)?
Originally Posted by PeregrineA1
(Post 12850027)
What is the name of the bike shop? Might be worth a call.
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No worries, very cool to see another one.
Re the questions people have had about the components on Dad's Wizard. Apparently he built it up originally as a century bike with parts he had on hand. Hubs were campy large flange, crank was nuovo record, brakes dura ace, rear derailleur was cyclone, and the front derailleur is lost to time. When his knees started getting bad he did what he could to "soften" the ride by getting new wheels (600 hubs) with bigger tires and changing the front derailleur to 105. So the bike has always been a hodgepodge and I like it that way. I switched the hubs back to campy, but otherwise things are pretty much as dad left them. He also had a different saddle on there. I don't know what it was, but I remember it being black. Might have to change out the one I have. I'm not sure what an appropriate mid seventies vintage saddle would be. |
Originally Posted by repechage
(Post 12231434)
Lugs and Fischer fork crowns were not easy to come by back then. At the time a few speculated that the Masi like parts were liberated. There are a number of Wizards with Nervex pro lugs too.
A few years ago there was a Masi frame on ebay that had the seat lug filed as that one is only more so, which I consider a tribute to Albert Eisentraut. There are not too many of these as stated. There is no "James Dean" parallel here so the prices will not Match a Confente, but a Wizard would be a good addition to a California Masi and Related Bike Collection. You could start with a Carlesbad Masi, a Wizard, a Medici, a Confente, Eisentraut, Lippy, Roberson, Tesch, American Moulton, Starck, And I might be leaving one out. Not a cheap collection to acquire though. Interestingly, in the CR archives, Baylis thinks that Mike Howard's best work was with Wizard, and you get real inconsistency with the finishes on the Medicis (which I have not seen enough of to comment pro or con). Even so, my early '90s Simonetti (filet brazed Tange) done by Howard rides wonderfully, and still feels Italianesque. |
Originally Posted by paredown
(Post 12853017)
Maybe add Simonetti, since that was Mike Howard's next gig, and Gianni Simonetti himself came out of Masi as well.
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That's wicked cool. At my fav LBS there's a guy who has worked on a few Wizards, and all the other guys practically kiss the nethermost hem of his garments when it comes up. :)
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Bane
Beautiful bike. Truely one of the best of the California breed. If you ever feel like bringing your Dad's Wizard out to a Velo Retro Rose Bowl ride give us a post. I'd like to rando down to one of the meets on my Carlsbad Masi once I get it back from touch-up at JC's CyclArt. Oh, and the saddle, a Mexican Unicanitor, cool! I have one on my Sequoia. Other California (south of bay area) builders on my list: Tim Neenan Lighthouse, Chris Pauley and Greg Diamond Tierra Jim |
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Man, nice shape. That looks like it would fit me. 61 or 62cm? Maybe larger...
[QUOTE=bane;14813858]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Y...-Wizard-18.jpg |
Splendido machino.
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Wow, that lugwork is beautiful!!!
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Originally Posted by devinfan
(Post 12850118)
Wow, I've got a new grail bike. That's too cool. I put in a vote for keeping the componentry as is. I liked seeing the cyclone too, first of all it's cool and unusual like the frame, and obviously the rider cared more about performance than making everything "high end". I'm not sure if it's just the lighting, but that is the most beautiful blue I've ever seen for a bike.
Originally Posted by Gary Fountain
(Post 12850129)
I saw a Wizard in a magazine a dozen or so years ago and fell in love with it. It was black and had Omas titanium bits. I have never forgotten it. Yours in the second one I have seen and I can see beauty is in the Wizard DNA.
What a great story especially with your father's very wise choice of builders. Harlan you pic one rare rail bike. That is a beautiful frame. Bane beautiful classic looking bike. |
ST is somewhere around 62. TT is about 58.
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