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matt0ne 03-08-11 02:23 PM

Rust in top tube
 
My Gios has internally routed rear brake cable and housing. When I pulled it out it was covered in parts with rust. Looking inside the top tube I can see that the inside is brown with rust.

The dude at my LBS didn't have any really good suggestions. What should I do to prevent something bad from happening?

Thanks!
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5175/...82b70d56a6.jpg

Force 03-08-11 03:00 PM

Is there rust showing on the exterior of the tube yet, or is it all on the inside?

matt0ne 03-08-11 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by Force (Post 12331779)
Is there rust showing on the exterior of the tube yet, or is it all on the inside?

It's all interior - I can scratch at it, and it comes off easily. There's a touch of surface rust, but nothing substantial.

ColonelJLloyd 03-08-11 03:12 PM

Won't it go away if you just ignore it and tell yourself it was never there?

matt0ne 03-08-11 03:17 PM

Just like those love-handles eh?

ColonelJLloyd 03-08-11 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by matt0ne (Post 12331871)
Just like those love-handles eh?

Dude! Are you spying on me or do you know my wife?

I should buy an indoor trainer. :o

fas2c 03-08-11 04:41 PM

Ospho? Framesaver?

nlerner 03-08-11 04:51 PM

On one project a while back, I suspected some amount of rust inside of the tubes. What I did was spray some solvent in the tubes, run a rag down each (using a coat hanger or some such to push and grab), and then used FrameSaver to inhibit future rust. Those rags did come out pretty darn filthy.

Neal

Capecodder 03-08-11 05:19 PM

It will most likely outlast all of us.....

southpawboston 03-09-11 09:21 AM

The best thing to do would be to strip the frame and soak it in oxalic acid overnight. The inside of the tubes will look like new! Then after a sodium carbonate rinse and hang-drying, coat the insides with FrameSaver.

If you don't want to spend that much time and effort, I would first make sure the inside of your top tube is completely dry-- hang the bike over a radiator or your heating furnace overnight with those cable exit points unobscured to allow air flow through the tube. Then squirt in some FrameSaver. If you're in WA, I take it you still have your heat on?

Grand Bois 03-09-11 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by Capecodder (Post 12332468)
It will most likely outlast all of us.....

+1

20grit 03-09-11 10:07 AM

I just had an awesome idea....

What about a 12 ga. shotgun bore snake? If the diameter would work right.... one could do some damage to the rust with that and solvent/chemical of choice.

matt0ne 03-10-11 01:19 AM

What would the oxacolic acid do to stickers, light surface rust and paintjob?

Captain Blight 03-10-11 01:53 AM

Nothing except removing the rust.


OA is a panacea to the mind and a specific against The Great Pox Of Bicycles, as much as Salvasan is a specific against the Great Pox. OA followed by a base rinse, heat-drying, and Framesaver (or linseed oil if you're a cheapskate, as I am) is a great solace to the mind.

Mark you, it takes a heck of a lot of surface rust to add up to even minimal real damage.

matt0ne 03-10-11 02:55 AM

Maybe I'll build it first, just to get a ride in and then I'll try the bath.

Wogster 03-10-11 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by matt0ne (Post 12331584)
My Gios has internally routed rear brake cable and housing. When I pulled it out it was covered in parts with rust. Looking inside the top tube I can see that the inside is brown with rust.

The dude at my LBS didn't have any really good suggestions. What should I do to prevent something bad from happening?

Thanks!
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5175/...82b70d56a6.jpg

Probably best to just leave it alone, most steel will rust over on the inside, and then stay that way for decades, the only time it's a concern is if the opening is on the top, where water might be able to get inside the tube and stay there.

matt0ne 03-12-11 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by Wogsterca (Post 12339888)
Probably best to just leave it alone, most steel will rust over on the inside, and then stay that way for decades, the only time it's a concern is if the opening is on the top, where water might be able to get inside the tube and stay there.

I think that's what happened.


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