1950's french randonneur
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Very nice bike!
I'm restoring a similar '50's randonneur that is nearly identical except for the brakes. Mine's got Mafac cantilevers, and is badged "Realty" from Chartres. I've only been able to get the Simplex Grand Tourisme derailleur to handle a 4 speed freewheel. I don't think it has enough throw to go 5 speeds, even with 3/32" chain.
I'm restoring a similar '50's randonneur that is nearly identical except for the brakes. Mine's got Mafac cantilevers, and is badged "Realty" from Chartres. I've only been able to get the Simplex Grand Tourisme derailleur to handle a 4 speed freewheel. I don't think it has enough throw to go 5 speeds, even with 3/32" chain.
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Very nice bike!
I'm restoring a similar '50's randonneur that is nearly identical except for the brakes. Mine's got Mafac cantilevers, and is badged "Realty" from Chartres. I've only been able to get the Simplex Grand Tourisme derailleur to handle a 4 speed freewheel. I don't think it has enough throw to go 5 speeds, even with 3/32" chain.
I'm restoring a similar '50's randonneur that is nearly identical except for the brakes. Mine's got Mafac cantilevers, and is badged "Realty" from Chartres. I've only been able to get the Simplex Grand Tourisme derailleur to handle a 4 speed freewheel. I don't think it has enough throw to go 5 speeds, even with 3/32" chain.
If you need randonneur bars there is a cheap set here
https://cgi.ebay.fr/guidon-AVA-velo-a...#ht_500wt_1156
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Wow, that bike is perfect. What a great find! I hope you end up fitting it with just a little seat post adjustment. And the bag is gorgeous! Is it a TA bag?
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I have tried my leather seat on there to see how it looks.
The bag is a Narbel i think!
Here are some photos
The bag is a Narbel i think!
Here are some photos
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Lovely bike.
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Ok thanks but i'm trying to visualise what you mean.
The bracket on the bag also has a longer piece that is under the bag holding the weight.
The bracket on the bag also has a longer piece that is under the bag holding the weight.
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Ok so i have removed the bag and it seems that you are right!
The bit under the bag is swirly shaped and it seems to fit over the bars and then around the stem.
I'm confused with the other bit still though! I fits around the head tube no problem but how does it connect with the other bracket?
The bit under the bag is swirly shaped and it seems to fit over the bars and then around the stem.
I'm confused with the other bit still though! I fits around the head tube no problem but how does it connect with the other bracket?
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It looks to me like it straps around the seat post (supported largely by friction it seems) and supports the weight of a saddle bag. Sort of an old version of this.
Because when the bag is fitted it seems secure without using this extra mystery piece.
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It looks to me like it straps around the seat post (supported largely by friction it seems) and supports the weight of a saddle bag. Sort of an old version of this.
Daveyates, I am not sure, is there any place on the bag bottom where the ends might slide into? Any wear marks on the rack that might indicate where they have been crossed or touching at any time?
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Thanks for telling me about the rack being upside down, it came attached to the bag the way i installed it.
So mystery solved!
Thanks guys.
So mystery solved!
Thanks guys.
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I have just been reading about selling items on the forum and i have realised that i shouldn't of mentioned it in the post here.
I shall start a trial subscription and post the bike in the appropriate forum.
Sorry for not reading about it first!
I shall also add other nice french items for sale as well if there is enough interest for it.
Thanks
I shall start a trial subscription and post the bike in the appropriate forum.
Sorry for not reading about it first!
I shall also add other nice french items for sale as well if there is enough interest for it.
Thanks
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it's a very pretty bike
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If anyone is wondering about the front bag support, there is a derivative version which was once sold by Park Bicycle Tools currently for sale on eBay... [ see eBay Item number: 110658897047 ]
I love eBay Sellers like this one who offer nice clear photos!
I love eBay Sellers like this one who offer nice clear photos!
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