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Old 03-17-11, 05:16 AM
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Rudge Whitworth

Enclosed is an image of my fathers old Rudge Whitworth which I intend to renovate. The number stamped on the base of the crank is A 326786 and I would like to know if it is possible to date it from this number. At some stage in it's history the
chainwheel was changed to BSA; it has a Sturmey Archer 3 speed. Any help would be appreciated.

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Hi, We aren't able to view the image. You need to tinker a bit and get that working. I host my pics on flickr and use BB code to put them here. The rear hub should have a letter or two and some numbers. That is usually the best way to date these 3-speed bikes.

I have a few R/W bikes. At one point in time they became part of Raleigh and the bikes were pretty much the same and all information applies. If your bike is a pre-raleigh it would be rare.

The paint and chrome is of very high quality and can be made to sparkle like new. Plenty of advice here. No abrasives required. The nuts and bolts are of a special size called "Whitworth" (same guy). It is said most of the sizes can be covered with fractional or metric wrenches. Some special tools are required but we often get around that.

Here is a pic of one of mine. It's a De Luxe. Like a Raleigh Sports


IMG_3092 by frankthewelder, on Flickr

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When did these become part of raleigh?
I've got an all chrome deluxe.
I thought I was going crazy when I could not find the wrench to fit some of the bolts!
Does anyone have an idea where to get compatible brake cables for these brakes?

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Originally Posted by ftwelder
Hi, We aren't able to view the image. You need to tinker a bit and get that working. I host my pics on flickr and use BB code to put them here. The rear hub should have a letter or two and some numbers. That is usually the best way to date these 3-speed bikes.

I have a few R/W bikes. At one point in time they became part of Raleigh and the bikes were pretty much the same and all information applies. If your bike is a pre-raleigh it would be rare.

The paint and chrome is of very high quality and can be made to sparkle like new. Plenty of advice here. No abrasives required. The nuts and bolts are of a special size called "Whitworth" (same guy). It is said most of the sizes can be covered with fractional or metric wrenches. Some special tools are required but we often get around that.

Here is a pic of one of mine. It's a De Luxe. Like a Raleigh Sports


IMG_3092 by frankthewelder, on Flickr
Very nice, Frank.
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Ok, thanks for that. The hub has a crude K4 stamped on it and hopefully this link will take you to the images.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/pheon_52/
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The K series hub was introduced in 1918 and replaced by the AW hub in 1936. So, assuming that hub is original to the bike (which is probably a safe guess) then your bike dates to 1918 - 1935. I don't know when Rudge became part of Raleigh. Post more photos, especially detail photos of the cranks, lugs, and that sort of thing. Raleigh was a big manufacturer and made everything themselves, so if your bike has many Raleigh-made parts, especially Raleigh frame parts, then the whole bike is probably Raleigh-made. Easily changed parts, like pedals, won't tell us much.
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I believe Rudge was bought out by Raleigh in 1948.
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Originally Posted by rhm
The K series hub was introduced in 1918 and replaced by the AW hub in 1936. So, assuming that hub is original to the bike (which is probably a safe guess) then your bike dates to 1918 - 1935. I don't know when Rudge became part of Raleigh. Post more photos, especially detail photos of the cranks, lugs, and that sort of thing. Raleigh was a big manufacturer and made everything themselves, so if your bike has many Raleigh-made parts, especially Raleigh frame parts, then the whole bike is probably Raleigh-made. Easily changed parts, like pedals, won't tell us much.
That's interesting - I have added some images of frame with lugs. Thanks again for the information.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/pheon_52/
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