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Camelback
Do any of you use a Camelback (or similar) when riding? They don't look C&V but seem quite useful for bikes that have one or no bottle braze ons. Thoughts?
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Sweat back is my only complaint. Too much heat rash in the middle of the day. It entertains me now to see folks suckling from the bag teat, as I once did proudly. 8]
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Gatorade bottles in the jersey pockets here... :)
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I have used on now and again but unless it is a long ride I perfer bottles
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Considering I sweat like a w----e in church, I guess that wouldn't be a good idea for road riding. Maybe for mountain biking.... (I lost a bottle yesterday while ripping through a rocky section).
Any suggestions for adding water bottle holders to a bike that has no braze ons? Without marring the paint? |
If you have ever run out of water riding in Texas during the summer you would have one also. After I did that I swore I'd never let it happen again. Camelback for me, I don't care how it looks.
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Originally Posted by Muttleyone
(Post 12383817)
If you have ever run out of water riding in Texas during the summer you would have one also. After I did that I swore I'd never let it happen again. Camelback for me, I don't care how it looks.
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I have three different models and have retrofitted insulated drinking hoses to the ones that didn`t originally have them. One model is bicycle/ski specific in that there is no facility for storage - just an insulated shell designed to store a bladder that will handle a couple liters of liquid.
Skiing I wear one under a ski jacket. Bicycling I use one to supplement a couple water bottles. The previous poster has decided sweating was an issue. I guess thats a personal observation based on how he was using the Camelback. Skiing, perspiration is a general occurance and results in loss of body fluids. Same for bicycling except that do to the nature of the sport, its possible that perspiration can be trapped under the Camelback and be more noticable. In the real world thats only an issue in extremely hot and humid conditions. But there is a strategy that pretty much solves the whole `sticky` situation. If the Camelback is left in the freezer overnight so that the contents are frozen, it will be 4 to 6 hours before they will gradually become liquid. In the meantime the insulation will limit temperature transfer and keep your back cool but not cold. That works best for me because I`ll go through 2 water bottles before the Camelback contents start to melt enough to provide a liquid source. I imagine that if the Camelback was your primary drinking source and not your secondary, then a couple hours in the freezer would probably be enough. The only downside to these is that they do require maintenaince. They will mildew if not washed and dried on a daily basis. But then - so will any regular waterbottle. Its usually the silicone ring under the cap on a stainless or plastic bottle that starts to have issues. With a Camelback - the whole bladder plus the drinking hose needs to be cleaned.. Again - a lazy way to deal with the situation is to store the bladder and hose in the freezer when not in use. Personally I`ll take a Camelback over a waterbottle any day - mostly because a waterbottle just dosen`t hold enough. But then there are convenience stores everywhere in most cities and Gatoraide, bottled water and fruit juices are pretty easy to come by too. |
Originally Posted by RobE30
(Post 12383814)
Considering I sweat like a w----e in church, I guess that wouldn't be a good idea for road riding. Maybe for mountain biking.... (I lost a bottle yesterday while ripping through a rocky section).
Any suggestions for adding water bottle holders to a bike that has no braze ons? Without marring the paint? andy |
Originally Posted by Shaneferd
(Post 12383726)
Sweat back is my only complaint. Too much heat rash in the middle of the day. It entertains me now to see folks suckling from the bag teat, as I once did proudly. 8]
Originally Posted by Burton
(Post 12383864)
One model is bicycle/ski specific in that there is no facility for storage - just an insulated shell designed to store a bladder that will handle a couple liters of liquid.
But there is a strategy that pretty much solves the whole `sticky` situation. If the Camelback is left in the freezer overnight so that the contents are frozen, it will be 4 to 6 hours before they will gradually become liquid. In the meantime the insulation will limit temperature transfer and keep your back cool but not cold. That works best for me because I`ll go through 2 water bottles before the Camelback contents start to melt enough to provide a liquid source. |
I'm partial to "Source" brand hydro systems. http://sourceoutdoor.com/15-cycling-...ydration-packs The bladders are much sturdier and easier to clean.
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Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh
(Post 12383838)
Me too. Less so in the winter when I don't need as much water. There are bike specific Camelbacks with more air ventilation in the back which help with the sweat.
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Originally Posted by RobE30
(Post 12383703)
Do any of you use a Camelback (or similar) when riding? They don't look C&V but seem quite useful for bikes that have one or no bottle braze ons. Thoughts?
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I can't carry a backpack of any sort when it's hot out. I made one out of a large fanny pack, with some foam insulation and a Camelback bladder, which I sometimes use.
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Camelback, for sure. On a short ride it doesn't really matter, but on a hot day if I'm going for more than an hour the camelback is essential. You take a sip every time your mouth feels dry, and you keep nicely hydrated all day. Sweat? Of course you're going to sweat. You're riding a bike. You're going to sweat. Get used to it.
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Originally Posted by Muttleyone
(Post 12383817)
If you have ever run out of water riding in Texas during the summer you would have one also. After I did that I swore I'd never let it happen again. Camelback for me, I don't care how it looks.
Mutt |
My father in law has this behind the seat rack that holds two bottles, great for desert riding. I think that is the most practical. similar to triathlon racks. Sometimes it is a 4 bottle ride!
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Originally Posted by RobE30
(Post 12383814)
Any suggestions for adding water bottle holders to a bike that has no braze ons? Without marring the paint?
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...cage3small.jpg |
another camelbak backer here. another reason... i have more than one bike and don't care to slap a saddle bag on every one or move flat kits from bike to bike all the time. everything is in the camelbak, including every tube size. so i can just grab it and go regardless of which bike i'm riding.
btw, if you only fill the bladder with filtered water, you won't need to clean it all the time. pure water alone does not support life. i can't remember the last time i cleaned mine. gatorade goes in the bottles. |
Originally Posted by kevrider
(Post 12384364)
pure water alone does not support life.
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[QUOTE=kevrider;12384364]another camelbak backer here. another reason... i have more than one bike and don't care to slap a saddle bag on every one or move flat kits from bike to bike all the time. everything is in the camelbak, including every tube size. so i can just grab it and go regardless of which bike i'm riding.
btw, if you only fill the bladder with filtered water, you won't need to clean it all the time. pure water alone does not support life. i can't remember the last time i cleaned mine. gatorade goes in the bottles.[/QUOTE] Exactly right. Innumeral bike rides, hikes, etc. Other than a quick rinse, no real maintenance. |
I use my camelback when I go mountian biking, although I have 2 bottles on my bike. If im in the woods for the day I know Im not going to ride past a store where I can pick up some extra fluid. On the road is a different story, I dont use it.
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I forgot to mention earlier, in the summer months I toss a trey of ice cubes in mine and use cold water from my fridge to fill it. The ice usually lasts well past two hours. How cool (sic) is that? Mine are cleaned once a season and I use well water. But they are hung up to dry open in a dry warm attic after each use.
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I have a small MEC rock climbing bag that has a pocket that will hold a 2 litre bladder (I use a 1.5) and I prefer the Source bladders as their large opening lets you add ice, they are very sturdy, and have treated me well for the past 5-6years.
When it gets really hot, and we get as hot as we get cold, I find that I drink more when I have my hydration bag and often take it on walks and errands as well as bicycle rides... my daughters won't leave home without their hydro bags in the summer and use the same bag as I do. They will empty a 1.5 litre bladder in an afternoon of riding and I know that they won't be dehydrated after playing in the sun. |
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